tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post2771442521429349070..comments2024-03-29T07:49:20.875-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/29/24: Just this once: the case for gunsNeil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-84743341805177091142016-06-21T17:23:46.784-05:002016-06-21T17:23:46.784-05:00"Well regulated" in the late 18th centur..."Well regulated" in the late 18th century meant "efficient, able to get the job done". It did not mean "well controlled" as it might today. eaglejohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17979957611782317982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-90044570131098817192016-06-21T07:33:27.548-05:002016-06-21T07:33:27.548-05:00Anyone who has ever fired a gun can tell the diffe...Anyone who has ever fired a gun can tell the difference between a firecracker and a gun shot. It isn't even close. Most of my neighbors carry after the Michael brown riots we had in our neighborhood. If we were going to shoot each other we would have done it already when we were on edge. People were getting dragged or of their cars and beaten to death with hammers. If there was a time when gun owners would be jittery and on edge that was the time. Nothing happened.<br /><br />We did have a majority of Ferguson residents realize that the only thing that was protecting them from the violent protesters and arsonists were themselves.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18267140136047181025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-33941892020196348572016-06-20T16:20:29.454-05:002016-06-20T16:20:29.454-05:00Clark, What does the term "well regulated Mil...Clark, What does the term "well regulated Militia" mean to you?Privatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757585399827295128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-36058320243582029022016-06-20T13:19:37.619-05:002016-06-20T13:19:37.619-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Placeholderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02967627809480888708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-43552967825152269942016-06-19T14:47:26.558-05:002016-06-19T14:47:26.558-05:00Wrong Private!
Illinois doesn't say anything a...Wrong Private!<br />Illinois doesn't say anything about individuals, it just states that all able bodied adults are members of the militia.<br />That follows the Second perfectly!Clark St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09634234069783123180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-55515157306051856822016-06-19T14:19:50.651-05:002016-06-19T14:19:50.651-05:00So let's cure all the crazy people, but let...So let's cure all the crazy people, but let's not deny them access to guns. And if they're not cured...[shrug]<br /><br />Bitter ScribeUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857840826894504436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-80520595399104863072016-06-19T12:24:17.363-05:002016-06-19T12:24:17.363-05:00That was my original point, Clark. That the 2nd am...That was my original point, Clark. That the 2nd amendment speaks of militia's where the IL const. stressed more about individuals.Privatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757585399827295128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-35527528804510635972016-06-19T11:23:19.810-05:002016-06-19T11:23:19.810-05:00"...a true assault weapon, meaning fully auto..."...a true assault weapon, meaning fully automatic." The fact that the versions you can legally buy at a gun shop are, unlike the military varieties, only semi-automatic is often cited by the NRA as evidence of their critics' ignorance about guns. But a lightweight rifle with a large magazine you can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger is a pretty efficient killing machine. A gun enthusiast from Indiana who was stopped in Sacramento on his way to a gay rights parade was carrying an AR 15 with 30 and 60 round magazines hitched together. If he wasn't just going to see the floats, he would have been in a good position to set a new record in carnage.<br /><br />TE <br />Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-58325960427252638762016-06-19T10:59:19.927-05:002016-06-19T10:59:19.927-05:00Agreed. Unfortunately it is quite likely to happen...Agreed. Unfortunately it is quite likely to happen.auld bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05738276939260500986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-29008189846008738342016-06-19T10:20:58.335-05:002016-06-19T10:20:58.335-05:00The Second Amendment specifically allows for the m...The Second Amendment specifically allows for the militia, so national supremacy won;t supersede anything.<br /><br />As for Hitler naming the sturmgewehr, that's disputed.Clark St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09634234069783123180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-13465998695502730732016-06-19T09:04:13.013-05:002016-06-19T09:04:13.013-05:00Here's a bit of jurisprudence you will never h...Here's a bit of jurisprudence you will never hear the NRA quoting. While claiming that "the 2nd Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia," the sainted Antony Scalia wrote, in his majority opinion on DC vs Heller, "Like most rights the 2nd Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever, etc. etc."<br /><br />There's little more to be said on the subject, but an interesting historical fact is that the name of what has become a very mixed blessing was given to it by none other than Adolph Hitler. The Germans introduced into service late in the war a lightweight, "user friendly" rifle capable of rapid fire and reasonably accurate at short and middle ranges. It was found on the Russian front to be more suitable to actual combat conditions than the heavy, high powered guns -- the Garand, the Mauser, the Lee Enfield --then the standard infantry weapons. It was officially named the MP 44. But when The Fuhrer, who had opposed its development, got a chance to fire one he dubbed it a "Sturmgewehr," which can be translated as "assault rifle."<br /><br />Tom EvansTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-33189455254405251242016-06-19T08:10:15.553-05:002016-06-19T08:10:15.553-05:00Well National Supremacy should supercede the state...Well National Supremacy should supercede the state. Unfortunately, some states wish to ignore that.Privatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757585399827295128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-35995918005858125502016-06-19T08:07:42.298-05:002016-06-19T08:07:42.298-05:00And here's the part the anti-gun people miss, ...And here's the part the anti-gun people miss, at least in Illinois<br />From the 1970 Constitution:<br />ARTICLE XII<br />MILITIA<br />SECTION 1. MEMBERSHIP<br />The State militia consists of all able-bodied persons residing in the State<br />except those exempted by law.<br /><br />So all adults are members of the militia, although I suspect we have to buy our own guns. Since we're all member, should we also have right to have a true assault weapon, meaning fully automatic?<br />Now the General Assembly has passed some laws limiting who actually is a member of the militia, mostly banning criminals & age limits, but those age limits are probably unconstitutional under other laws banning age discrimination.Clark St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09634234069783123180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-87505224579960391002016-06-19T07:20:31.414-05:002016-06-19T07:20:31.414-05:00I'm waiting for the day -- not hoping, but exp...I'm waiting for the day -- not hoping, but expecting -- an cataclysmic event sparked by a firecracker or a car backfire, in which many members of a large crowd simultaneously draw their guns and commence firing on each other. Blame that on mental illness!<br /><br />johntatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088632798195131329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-23651899771586059382016-06-19T06:58:42.610-05:002016-06-19T06:58:42.610-05:00This is the part the gun fanatics seem to miss: &q...This is the part the gun fanatics seem to miss: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."<br /><br />Or how this was more a reaction to be sure the new gov't would not act like the British redcoats did. <br /><br />Yes, amazing how President Obama's election was a cause of fear for them and why.Privatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757585399827295128noreply@blogger.com