tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post2843771403789408355..comments2024-03-29T05:29:08.934-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/29/24: What about the cops' side of the story?Neil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-6937095716515164792014-12-09T10:47:34.017-06:002014-12-09T10:47:34.017-06:00Mr. Steinberg, you belittle yourself by calling th...Mr. Steinberg, you belittle yourself by calling the New York Times your "betters". The HYT is no longer the paper of record, it is tarnished and living in faded glory. The Onion is more credible. Chicago reporters are head and shoulders above the NYT's roster of propaganda and prevarication.Peter V. Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209902525167395224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-58683716027995809972014-12-08T19:00:48.430-06:002014-12-08T19:00:48.430-06:00I'm off topic here, and I know that Neil canno...I'm off topic here, and I know that Neil cannot comment, but was anyone else disgusted by the pious hypocracy of today's S-T editorial lecturing how a rich patron must not make decisions for the U of I, just five weeks or so after the paper suddenly and without notice abandoned its no-endorsements policy, to endorse Bruce Rauner, who is (surprise) buddies with a rich S-T owner?Richjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-84387297524355578822014-12-08T11:09:29.422-06:002014-12-08T11:09:29.422-06:00Looking at both groups, the police and blacks shar...Looking at both groups, the police and blacks share many of the same outlooks. They are in some ways also perceived the same by a portion of the general population. Both groups feel set upon or misunderstood, all being judged by the actions of a few. Both feel their version of right or wrong is the only thing that matters. There is also a very prevalent feeling among people I know that it seems everything is fine if you speak to both one on one , when there are groups, everything changes. However, the largest similarity is one both protest the most. The code of silence in both groups is unmatched. The CIA, KGB, M10, etc. have nothing on these groups. I really don't see either side changing, so this is how it will stay. The news media will find something else to obsess over soon and all will be forgotten in our short attention span lifestyle.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-24591942769443480482014-12-08T10:35:45.363-06:002014-12-08T10:35:45.363-06:00I will use the rough heuristic of “your (our) side...I will use the rough heuristic of “your (our) side” and “your (our) side of the aisle.”<br /><br />Tate raises an interesting point. Current events are dominated by the extreme players. Current mainstream media encourage this for what they believe are enhanced ratings. For example just watch the mainstream Sunday morning talk shows with two or more folk talking at the same time.<br /><br />President Clinton was able to muzzle the left of his side. Thus international and world trade became his positive legacy. It appears that mainstream Republicans are now able to muzzle the flame throwers on their side. I note how quickly that one Republican congressional aide was fired for making comments about the Obama children.<br /><br />We shall see if Boehner and McConnell will continue to manage with an iron fist. I believe success will come to the party that “looks like the adults in the room.” <br /><br />But it is an interesting question of why or why not moderates are able to quell the extremists on their side of the aisle.<br /><br />There is one easy way for moderates to quell the extremists on their side. It is to debate them on ideas, on facts, on logic, and on anticipated and unanticipated consequences.<br /><br />JerryBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-50516637398878300012014-12-08T08:42:11.020-06:002014-12-08T08:42:11.020-06:00I'm afraid the time has not yet arrived when w...I'm afraid the time has not yet arrived when we can talk rationally about these incidents and the apparent injustices of the justice system against black people. One can say that the deaths of 2 not-quite-innocent men have been exploited opportunistically...by both left and right -- , but what's new with that? I would hope that at least a few policemen concerned about being demonized would take the opportunity to imagine what it feels like to be automatically classified as a thug.<br />Johntatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06215684866966011198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-65328709322624305012014-12-08T08:21:16.961-06:002014-12-08T08:21:16.961-06:00Garner was 43 at the time of his death, so he wasn...Garner was 43 at the time of his death, so he wasn't "young," at least by my standards.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08160051272326282985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-7255304123752705222014-12-08T07:06:22.501-06:002014-12-08T07:06:22.501-06:00This might be slightly off tangent,but Radley Bakl...This might be slightly off tangent,but Radley Baklo wrote this 5 myths piece about police.<br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-americas-police/2014/12/05/35b1af44-7bcd-11e4-9a27-6fdbc612bff8_story.html He also writes this blog The Watch which also on the Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/ you should find the piece he wrote about St Louis County. sanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06580867647162091670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-44313409304517623212014-12-08T01:59:34.840-06:002014-12-08T01:59:34.840-06:00I can quibble a bit but I generally agree with Mr....I can quibble a bit but I generally agree with Mr. Steinberg.<br /><br />I saw New York City Mayor Blasio on the Sunday ABC talk show. He described the “talk” he had with<br />his African American son. He told his son to be submissive when confronted by the cops. Well that is the common sense I followed my entire life and all people should follow.<br /><br />If you have a gripe then the next day:<br /><br />• go to the police station to complain;<br />• go to your congress man or women to complain;<br />• go to a lawyer<br />• etc.<br /><br />The cops confront situations every day that would be once in a lifetime dangerous for the most of us.<br /><br />That said – I believe the NYC cops should have used more “art” to attempt to talk the situation down rather than quickly use a takedown.<br /><br />Second – traffic ticketing should not be used as a revenue generating activity. That creates unnecessary ill-will toward the cops.<br /><br />Recent media coverage has been dominated by the race hucksters and victimhood charlatans.<br />Mainstream media coverage has been bizarre. Rather than simply reporting the facts, all the facts, and nothing but the facts – they seemed determined to weave this into some sort of “narrative.” That is the media subtracting – not adding – value. And consumers do not pay for stuff that does not add value.<br /><br /><br />JerryBnoreply@blogger.com