tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post3281586355957033952..comments2024-03-29T09:11:18.778-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/29/24: "You liberal nuts never cease to amaze."Neil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-57004468429401912032015-04-05T21:56:20.922-05:002015-04-05T21:56:20.922-05:00When I was in college in California, the state had...When I was in college in California, the state had a completely hateful proposition on the ballot that would have forbidden gays from teaching in public schools.<br /><br />Our journalism professor arranged a debate for our class between an opponent and a proponent. The opponent laid out her case in a calm, reasonable manner. The proponent launched on a shrill speech about "homosexuals recruiting our children in the schools," her voice getting higher and more hysterical by the second, until she rounded on the opponent and demanded, "Did I understand you to say you're homosexual?"<br /><br />The poor woman blinked and said, "No. My husband would be very surprised."<br /><br />Afterward, our prof apologized for having invited the loon.<br /><br />Isn't it amazing how this side of the debate consistently draws a certain type of person?<br /><br />(P.S. The proposition lost.)Bitter Scribenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-16462205962268628572015-04-05T19:00:13.798-05:002015-04-05T19:00:13.798-05:00I agree, TE, Wendy is too hung up over a word.I agree, TE, Wendy is too hung up over a word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-48654409804143287782015-04-05T18:16:29.920-05:002015-04-05T18:16:29.920-05:00Although. If the Germans hadn't been inclined ...Although. If the Germans hadn't been inclined to kill or drive those people away, they might not have started the war in the first place. Neil Steinberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-65507988783709756232015-04-05T17:24:21.810-05:002015-04-05T17:24:21.810-05:00Yes, I see "normal" was a poor word to u...Yes, I see "normal" was a poor word to use. For which I apologize. How about "just like me in all important respects."<br /><br />However, I thought I was making a useful contribution to the conversation, and would hope that your hang-up with one word has not caused you to overlook the main point.<br /><br />TE Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-63446799693625835172015-04-05T16:28:33.659-05:002015-04-05T16:28:33.659-05:00"beyond having a number of gay friends and fi..."beyond having a number of gay friends and finding them entirely normal in all important aspects"<br /><br />I'm sure your gay friends are relieved you've come to this conclusion/snark.WendyChttp://twitter.com/WendyCCHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-86366128980986217222015-04-05T16:11:56.557-05:002015-04-05T16:11:56.557-05:00The subject is almost exhausted, but, beyond havin...The subject is almost exhausted, but, beyond having a number of gay friends and finding them entirely normal in all important aspects, I've been struck by the waste of human capital such discrimination has engendered. From the Alan Hodges biography of Alan Turing (not the recent entertaining but almost entirely fictional movie!) I noted an extreme example. In the middle of WW II Reichsfuhrer Himmler rebuked a German doctor for suggesting that talented homosexuals might be treated for their "malady" and prove useful in the war effort. Himmler wrote "I grant you that the British have found some promising material for their purposes here, but there must be no question of a remission of the prosecution of homosexuals...in view of the risk of homosexual vice rampaging unpunished among the Volk." So German queers kept getting one-way tickets to the camps, while Turing was busy in Hut Eight of Bletchley Park breaking the German naval code and shaving a few years off the war.<br /><br />It is a massive irony that if the Germans hadn't murdered or driven away many of their most gifted (and patriotic) citizens they might have won the war.<br /><br />Tom EvansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-80279479399214566152015-04-05T15:48:27.422-05:002015-04-05T15:48:27.422-05:00It's also unfair, even were it true. Finish th...It's also unfair, even were it true. Finish the thought..."as opposed to straight parents, who are always good influences..." It's condemning someone on a standard you don't use to measure yourself.Neil Steinberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-22657005230404247642015-04-05T14:54:23.263-05:002015-04-05T14:54:23.263-05:00That teacher was from Skokie. She told the class h...That teacher was from Skokie. She told the class how she was somewhat resentful that though she was oldest, her younger brother was deemed as more important. No wonder she joined NOW and was either reformed at best or secular later. The irony is she later got a divorce when after having 3 girls, her hub moved to a younger lady who could still have a child so he could try for a boy. He wasn't a conservative Jew either and was an attorney.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-71768788137820775962015-04-05T14:51:20.768-05:002015-04-05T14:51:20.768-05:00Unfort. some think the gay parents are a bad influ...Unfort. some think the gay parents are a bad influence, especially on a boy, but that's not logical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-81299457340497663042015-04-05T14:22:02.615-05:002015-04-05T14:22:02.615-05:00I think it helps to put this in a continuum. When ...I think it helps to put this in a continuum. When I first started at the newspaper, 30 years ago, it was a big deal to be gay and employed. We'd have stories like: "He's a gay postman!" Gradually, gays won the right to hold a job. Then AIDS came, and they convinced society to care about a disease that was killing them, which took doing. Marriage seemed a bridge too far, at first--why weren't "civil unions' adequate? (The metaphor I used is, imagine instead of voting rights, blacks were offered an "electoral choice," so that the holy concept of voting wasn't sullied by their participation). But the facts behind the situation—gays don't make worse spouses, parents, children, etc.--just overwhelmed the old status quo. But fanatics always move the goal line--the abortion debate used to be birth control used to be masturbation. Having lost marriage, they have decided that serving weddings is "condoning" them, which is just insane. If a gas station owner insisted he wouldn't fill the cars of someone going somewhere he didn't approve of, he'd never get any support, and go out of business anyway. Hmmm....I smell a "Visit to the Steinberg Gas Station" on the horizon. This is why I reply to people, or try to. It sparks thoughts.Neil Steinberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-73169418999577680802015-04-05T13:43:19.881-05:002015-04-05T13:43:19.881-05:00Like I was anti pushy gay until Neil said, you ha...Like I was anti pushy gay until Neil said, you have to respect their civil rights. Suddenly, the light went off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-64956056985339421872015-04-05T13:42:26.874-05:002015-04-05T13:42:26.874-05:00Yes, that learned that word with out ending the ic...Yes, that learned that word with out ending the ic at the end from Rush blowhard.<br /><br />I think its good Neil used his points and took time with this guy, something may sink in sometime, with time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-2392144013896384612015-04-05T13:39:19.887-05:002015-04-05T13:39:19.887-05:00I had an excellent but super lib, Jewish hist. tea...I had an excellent but super lib, Jewish hist. teacher in a public high school in the suburbs. When I grad. from college or also went to grad school, I still kept in touch and later when I taught myself and asked her for tips, she was disappointed with me cause I wouldn't join NOW. Im all for women's rights but some people she introduced me too for a local meeting, though she was married , were like man haters. No thanks. Yes, I know there's a run on in here but typing fast.<br /><br />female poster<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-74191498606786726232015-04-05T13:36:41.687-05:002015-04-05T13:36:41.687-05:00I'm a moderate Democrat, rarely agree with Rep...I'm a moderate Democrat, rarely agree with Repubs, and vote Dem, yet I've had pals on both sides get peeved with me, saying I wasn't liberal enough or to others, not conserve. enough.<br /><br />When will people learn, moderation is the key ? What happened to more moderate repubs or dems, These days it's either almost blatant revolutionary left wingers or right wing rel. neo Nazi nuts. What happened to an Ike style Repub ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-75324517621246004502015-04-05T13:33:26.718-05:002015-04-05T13:33:26.718-05:00Well said, Tom and so true.
Well said, Tom and so true.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-67665891891489731292015-04-05T12:31:32.669-05:002015-04-05T12:31:32.669-05:00I don't understand how you an deal with some o...I don't understand how you an deal with some of these people, including the right-wingers who also condemn us for being Democrats aching for a tolerant society.Maidahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00695560604873128421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-85668020669459465892015-04-05T12:18:10.076-05:002015-04-05T12:18:10.076-05:00Neil, I think you wasted precious time on a bonehe...Neil, I think you wasted precious time on a bonehead.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215179140259379507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-69039426031143389942015-04-05T12:05:06.753-05:002015-04-05T12:05:06.753-05:00for me the use of "democrat party" is an...for me the use of "democrat party" is an automatic signal that i can tune out anything and everything that follows. "libtard" runs a close second.<br />mellowjohnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-12358385521238654292015-04-05T11:20:03.106-05:002015-04-05T11:20:03.106-05:00I learned something about the diversity of Jews by...I learned something about the diversity of Jews by meeting many, first in Chicago and then in London. Including the fact that, like everybody else, Jews can subscribe to the same familiar negative stereotypes. In a London party where I was the only gentile present, I struck up a conversation with a girl and answered her question about which Temple I attended by confessing to being a Presbyterian from Chicago. She said she said she could tell I was American but had wondered why I hadn't seemed like one of those pushy New York Jews.<br /><br />Tom EvansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-67397195454771991002015-04-05T11:16:29.647-05:002015-04-05T11:16:29.647-05:00It was all the African-Americans that went to the ...It was all the African-Americans that went to the polls in California in 2008 to vote for Obama that also voted for Proposition 8, which put it over the top. Clark St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09634234069783123180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-2078042842991762552015-04-05T11:13:39.288-05:002015-04-05T11:13:39.288-05:00Is their an equivalent insult that people on left ...Is their an equivalent insult that people on left use like those on the right use 'libtard?" Conversation stopper for me, but I suppose those that use that word aren't interested in a conversationMurray Bannermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-14052115483951463792015-04-05T11:10:39.527-05:002015-04-05T11:10:39.527-05:00Yes Yes Yes -- it's a HUGE difference - privat...Yes Yes Yes -- it's a HUGE difference - private parties v governmental entities cass Johnsinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-25027389889108932772015-04-05T10:55:44.578-05:002015-04-05T10:55:44.578-05:00I'm amazed you tried to engage with this guy i...I'm amazed you tried to engage with this guy in the first place. The foaming-at-the-mouth rabid crowd using religion to justify their bigotry can't understand where they're wrong if you used mile high print. Must be their own spittle flying in their eyes blinds them. The exaggerated twists in their reasoning to justify their case is frightening, fanatical in nature. It is amusing that he uses the ultimate liberal to back his information. Is he trying to remind us we liberals once agreed with him?WendyChttp://twitter.com/WendyCCHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-40436729805797667912015-04-05T10:47:27.713-05:002015-04-05T10:47:27.713-05:00You were too kind to him, Neil. Should have told h...You were too kind to him, Neil. Should have told him to F off, but at least by explaining, maybe he'll get it someday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-1408997274500446302015-04-05T10:46:26.015-05:002015-04-05T10:46:26.015-05:00Here is a not so bad cultural piece/ Les Miserable...Here is a not so bad cultural piece/ Les Miserables play version called Macabees, done Passover style.<br /><br />I wonder what a Pesach is.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmthKpnTHYQ<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com