tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post3548957028459019864..comments2024-03-28T04:49:59.527-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/28/24: Liberals can wear jackboots too Neil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-80888259392772836922017-03-07T18:43:22.629-06:002017-03-07T18:43:22.629-06:00I'd find this argument more compelling if, say...I'd find this argument more compelling if, say, Liberty University were inviting Noam Chomsky to speak on their campus to their neophyte baby conservatives. But that will never, ever happen.<br /><br />Murray is a completely discredited hateful tool who has built his entire career out of shoddy science designed to give a wink-nod veneer of respectability to what is effectively modern-day eugenics and phrenology. Not all viewpoints deserve respect, and shouting this fool down is an admirable and proper response. Would that somebody had done the same to Hitler in the 20's and early 30's.Shawn Ritchiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10231963205811232052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-87545076894234340012017-03-05T20:45:41.006-06:002017-03-05T20:45:41.006-06:00True, but its frustrating. Conservatives always cl...True, but its frustrating. Conservatives always claim to be the victims, even as most people see through their alternative fact universe. I don't have a problem with people in a college setting demonstrating that they don't have to respect a racist ideologue and give him a forum on their campus. Certainly Murray has plenty of other platforms to promote his opinions, but Middelbury students shouldn't have to accept that he's entitled to equal time on their campus. <br /><br />TomTwainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038737612028216431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-72460706057491512932017-03-05T17:16:31.373-06:002017-03-05T17:16:31.373-06:00That's probably true. I differentiate between ...That's probably true. I differentiate between protesting something and stopping it. The second wasn't accidental. Filling the hall and shouting people down isn't acceptable. Neil Steinberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-41190774566266507442017-03-05T17:10:27.318-06:002017-03-05T17:10:27.318-06:00I'm not sure how you can read "Affirmativ...I'm not sure how you can read <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=s4CKqxi6yWIC&pg=PA508&lpg=PA508&dq=%22Affirmative+action,+in+education+and+the+workplace+alike,+is+leaking+a+poison+into+the+American+soul.%22&source=bl&ots=gaD7i2tbG4&sig=KK_nIowCbKzk4jFqbDWbjG6faug&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjE3ZOHucDSAhVP5mMKHSFzB7AQ6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=%22Affirmative%20action%2C%20in%20education%20and%20the%20workplace%20alike%2C%20is%20leaking%20a%20poison%20into%20the%20American%20soul.%22&f=false" rel="nofollow">"Affirmative action, in education and the workplace alike, is leaking a poison into the American soul."</a> as anything other than stone cold racism. <br /><br />I look at the situation (a new fascist junta in control of the USA, so why not have a speech by a well-known racist libertarian) and can't help buy wonder what drugs the faculty & administration were on. OF COURSE there was going to be a protest; the only question was whether it would tip over into open violence.<br /><br />Trump's brownshirts won't need this as an excuse; even if the US left was a universally peaceful hivemind the fascists would just make something up to justify their actions.orchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127551500120547348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-88172986740308121672017-03-05T16:24:21.672-06:002017-03-05T16:24:21.672-06:00"Wrong conclusions?" Murray has made a c..."Wrong conclusions?" Murray has made a career out of advocating provocative libertarian views I disagree with, but he's not a Grand Wizard of the Klan, and there is no reason young adults entrusted with a college education shouldn't be exposed to him. A few might be converted, most won't. I thought "The Bell Curve" was wrong headed from the start because it depended on I.Q. testing as a general measure of intelligence, but he and his co-author did not claim a proven link between race and intelligence, although that was the takeaway from reviews and commentaries.<br /><br />I don't think the "martyrdom" of this incident will mean much to him either way. He gets plenty of exposure in right wing publications like "Commentary," "The Weekly Standard." and the good old WSJ.<br /><br />The college administration seems to have acted honorably, condemning the fracas and supporting their professor.<br /><br />Tom Evans<br /><br /> Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-68416734238923348042017-03-05T12:47:48.561-06:002017-03-05T12:47:48.561-06:00Exactly. What in the world was that professor thin...Exactly. What in the world was that professor thinking?<br /><br />Now the SOB will probably ride that martyrdom for the rest of his life.<br /><br />Bitter ScribeUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857840826894504436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-22476061476984753482017-03-05T11:10:55.531-06:002017-03-05T11:10:55.531-06:00Neil, you're right of course, the violence is ...Neil, you're right of course, the violence is counter-productive, although I don't think it did anything to elevate Murray's views. I have a bigger problem with Middlebury inviting him to speak in the first place. A college is a place of learning, but that doesn't mean all viewpoints have to be accepted. Part of an education is learning what is true or correct, at least to the best of scholarly research. Liberals may have gone too far, at the urging of "fairness" and "tolerance" to give a wrong conclusions a forum. Then we get Trump and the attitude that facts don't matter,and Mr. Trump is entitled to his opinion. Part of academic rigor should be taking a stand and not supporting bad conclusions by accepting the idea that they're entitled to equal time.TomTwainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038737612028216431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-38851272410164949372017-03-05T10:26:45.593-06:002017-03-05T10:26:45.593-06:00How did these students, intelligent young people, ...How did these students, intelligent young people, miss the most effective way to hurt a speaker? Just turn your back and leave. Did a speaker speak if no one heard him?okiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414998405758030304noreply@blogger.com