tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post4638373445703523582..comments2024-03-18T21:09:10.627-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/19/24: Really important people show up for the brisNeil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-53555569231877560772016-04-11T14:55:28.959-05:002016-04-11T14:55:28.959-05:00I once noted in an online forum that there are gen...I once noted in an online forum that there are genetic predispositions that are best handled via circumcision, and was flabbergasted at the venom this aside brought forth. I learned first hand just how unhinged the anti-circumcision crowd is. You would have thought I was an ax murderer.Dennis Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03936110563379328219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-5788947598636331872016-04-11T10:20:53.943-05:002016-04-11T10:20:53.943-05:00For the record, if my daughter were marrying a Jew...For the record, if my daughter were marrying a Jew you couldn't keep me from the wedding. And I would welcome an annual invitation to a Seder. I would probably prefer to beg off an invitation to a bris, but if I thought not going would cause hard feelings would certainly attend.<br /><br />I Know circumcision is important to Jews (and Moslems), but most Christians have no such religious or historical obligations. Ever since Saint Paul, in the early days of the faith, realized a sentimental attachment to their foreskins made his mainly Greek audiences hard to convert and gave them a pass. All in all, I prefer it being a medical option, but at this stage of life it is not a matter that consumes my attention.<br /><br />TETomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-38365207816663878792016-04-11T00:20:30.163-05:002016-04-11T00:20:30.163-05:00Well it has significance for you. You and I have n...Well it has significance for you. You and I have no idea whether it has that much significance to Ivanka that her father skipped to the bris. I can't believe like other posters that I'm defending Trump but in her situation ( and I've certainly been in the situation of having given birth to a baby )I would've said "neither I nor the baby will be at our best at that time and since you can only take a limited time off the campaign trail don't come now. Come when you can enjoy the baby and I can enjoy your visit." Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06957545591351593700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-38120286079769690022016-04-10T22:19:27.844-05:002016-04-10T22:19:27.844-05:00as the parents of 2 now nearly grown boys , we did...as the parents of 2 now nearly grown boys , we did not circumcise nor vaccinate our children as it seemed they could not consent to either of these medical decisions. i know this makes us wackos to many, as neil you have recently made clear. the boys have chosen to get some of these inoculations prior to traveling abroad but have never indicated any interest in having the foreskin removed from their penises. how would they feel if i forced them to now? not thrilled I'm sure. possibly resentful maybe enraged. so why is this acceptable? i have no fricking idea. and to publicly embrace such a thing with pride and ridicule people who object to such a barbaric act. oy!FMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06829632906445535928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-30555751499944526012016-04-10T17:11:57.708-05:002016-04-10T17:11:57.708-05:00Grandson. It's not significant for Trump, as I...Grandson. It's not significant for Trump, as I said because he's so unfit for so many other reasons. But skipping a bris has significance. That was my point today. Neil Steinberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-19102356820797189742016-04-10T14:34:06.796-05:002016-04-10T14:34:06.796-05:00But you're not running for President. I can...But you're not running for President. I can't belive I'm defending Donald Trump, but presidential campaign events are big deals to the many people involved, and the candidates are expected to make personal sacrifices in fullfilling commitments. Not knowing anything of the people or the circumstances I'm inclined to think it might be considered a forgivable ommision.<br /><br />You are right, of course, in saying it doesn't matter that Trump isn't Jewish. The same points could be made if it were a christening, except for the fact that a bris can't be scheduled with any certainty well in advance.<br /><br />TETomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-19161797315651895482016-04-10T14:13:40.817-05:002016-04-10T14:13:40.817-05:00Well O K. But you said it's not significant th...Well O K. But you said it's not significant that the man skipped his grand daughter's bris to campaign. Maybe that's what threw me off.<br /><br />TETomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-91709679766233188792016-04-10T13:38:31.252-05:002016-04-10T13:38:31.252-05:00It doesn't matter that Trump isn't Jewish....It doesn't matter that Trump isn't Jewish. He should have gone to the ceremony, it's his grandson. Attending is a sign of care and respect. I'm not religious, but I've attended christenings, bar mitzvahs, and the like. The ceremonies aren't important to me personally, but they are to the ones holding them. The people who invite you want you to share in something big in their lives. NikkiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226032148784322997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-23428259287708844802016-04-10T13:27:54.581-05:002016-04-10T13:27:54.581-05:00Now, if you had written about No-Circ on the first...Now, if you had written about No-Circ on the first day of this month, I would have dismissed it as an obvious parody of Peta. I guess the old saw about "two sides to every story" is literally true, no matter how self evident one side may be.<br /><br />johntatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088632798195131329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-67157440561615100672016-04-10T12:47:41.722-05:002016-04-10T12:47:41.722-05:00@Tom --
You missed the point. If your daughter we...@Tom --<br /><br />You missed the point. If your daughter were marrying a Jew, and you didn't going, instead saying that, as a non-Jew you were not expected to "abide by Jewish ritual observances," that would say something about you, and not something good. Neil Steinberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-41629127377812789412016-04-10T12:33:27.242-05:002016-04-10T12:33:27.242-05:00Yeah, I hadn't been aware of the Cohn/Trump re...Yeah, I hadn't been aware of the Cohn/Trump relationship, although I must say it's totally in character. As for Cohn being treated as a pariah after coming down with AIDS, maybe that wouldn't have happened if he weren't himself a relentless gay-basher who sought out the company of like-minded individuals.<br /><br />Bitter ScribeUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857840826894504436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-54821905102188585762016-04-10T11:44:00.368-05:002016-04-10T11:44:00.368-05:00A non-issue. He's not a Jew and should not be ...A non-issue. He's not a Jew and should not be expected to abide by Jewish ritual observances. Truly alarming news about Trump is in a recent Politico article revealing that an early mentor and associate was Roy Cohn, who, after Joe McCarthy dropped off the twig, spent some years as a legal hit man for the rich and unsavory in New York until news that he was dying of AIDS made him persona non grata.<br /><br />Tom EvansTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-79112637486500624902016-04-10T01:27:55.825-05:002016-04-10T01:27:55.825-05:00There are very few people I dislike as much as Don...There are very few people I dislike as much as Donald Trump but 1) he's not Jewish and thus so I can't expect this ritual to be important to him...would I place the same importance on my grand kids christening as their bris. No. And if my father in law were not Jewish I would totally understand him skipping the whole thing. 2) one of the few things he cops to is to not doing a great job of being an involved grandfather. He's not pretending otherwise. 3) watch the movie made about Rich Kids when Ivana and Donald Jr were teens Almost all of the children of the ultra rich come across as reprehensible. Ivanka and Don come across as mature and serious 4) the kids I know who know Tiffany Trump (a senior at Penn) say that her father was very involved in her life given that she lived in California and that he showed up for the important events in her life. <br /><br />So of all the many things I find unacceptable about Trump...all the things that bring a chill to my heart about the Fact that he's gotten this far, this ain't one of em Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06957545591351593700noreply@blogger.com