tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post5106047730610739140..comments2024-03-28T22:15:17.067-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/29/24: Stop means stopNeil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-51157665709109141332020-11-29T17:07:40.126-06:002020-11-29T17:07:40.126-06:00The one that caught my attention was, “STOP in the...The one that caught my attention was, “STOP in the name of love.”<br />tatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088632798195131329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-39169948566705489212020-11-29T14:13:23.719-06:002020-11-29T14:13:23.719-06:00The Far North Side is infested with tons of unnece...The Far North Side is infested with tons of unnecessary stop signs to the late & definitely unlamented 50th Ward alderman Berny Stone. <br />Apparently he had a child killed by a car 50-60 years ago & that drove him over the edge. He put stop signs all over West Rogers Park & some had to be removed because the signs caused multi-block backups, such as one on EB Touhy at Albany, that caused a huge backup in Lincolnwood at Touhy/McCormick. <br />Stone also was responsible for that illegal fence down the middle of Howard St. & he also made several streets one way, which also caused traffic messes. Clark St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09634234069783123180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-54484442296188235682020-11-29T14:11:31.925-06:002020-11-29T14:11:31.925-06:00What Clark St. says about law-abiding liberal Oak ...What Clark St. says about law-abiding liberal Oak Park is true. I swear I met people who there who really thought that a "rolling stop" counted as a stop. Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07065709548202393526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-63041932024432130252020-11-29T11:58:37.515-06:002020-11-29T11:58:37.515-06:00Guessing that you don't have a whole lot of su...Guessing that you don't have a whole lot of superfluous street signs on your charming lane in the leafy suburban paradise, Neil. In the city, there are a *lot* of signs. I imagine that most of them are necessary, but would it make for a more attractive, less cluttered streetscape if there were fewer? IMHO, yes, though it's not something that keeps me up at night.<br /><br />As for the sign in question, I think it's kind of cute. I see little possibility of it being effective, however. Folks know what "stop" means. Those that habitually roll through stop signs are unlikely to be shamed into good behavior via being chided by that cute reminder. Seems to me that the fear of getting a ticket is the only avenue through which scofflaws are convinced to scoff less. Jakashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-45654814947590662112020-11-29T11:08:20.458-06:002020-11-29T11:08:20.458-06:00Beautiful. I live far North side of Chicago, half...Beautiful. I live far North side of Chicago, half block from Lincolnwood. I ride my bike through both neighborhoods. Chicago has four-way stop signs on almost every backstreet corner, nobody ever pays attention and rarely does anyone stop. Lincolnwood, no stop signs for the backstreets so you must yield, and I think most people do. My point, just can the stop signs. Obviously nobody's paying attention. And we always refer to slowly going through the stop sign as a "Rolling Stop", that's what I heard it called. And when life is good and nothing to whine about, we always have the four-way stop signs on the backstreets as a go to.Connellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18406704590565406630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-88872918039719085552020-11-29T11:04:33.494-06:002020-11-29T11:04:33.494-06:00Oak Lawn has had a lot of "clever" stop ...Oak Lawn has had a lot of "clever" stop signs for years. They're mini-signs, just like the ones in Norridge. My favorite is "Right there, pilgrim"...which, when added to "Stop", completes a line of dialogue from a John Wayne western. Apparently, he said it in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" in 1962. Grizz 65https://www.blogger.com/profile/02892702223228764894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-15362509009505699492020-11-29T10:09:12.576-06:002020-11-29T10:09:12.576-06:00Comparable to the well known belief of Manhattan p...Comparable to the well known belief of Manhattan pedestrians that a stop sign is only a suggestion.<br /><br />TomTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-40314100541973714592020-11-29T09:35:08.184-06:002020-11-29T09:35:08.184-06:00As a former National Safety Council employee, I su...As a former National Safety Council employee, I support the concept entirely. Any tactic to help dissuade those of us who are in a hurry to go nowhere is a good thing. Regarding the street sign clutter issue, I would suggest the advertising signage clutter issue is the first priority by far.Baruchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04272846864527724702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-23534416225461294842020-11-29T09:32:34.525-06:002020-11-29T09:32:34.525-06:00I like the novelty of the sign. It would be fun to...I like the novelty of the sign. It would be fun to see one- shakes up the normal routine, which is good. So many of us can get into autopilot when driving rather than giving operating a several 1 or 2 ton object the focus it deserves. <br /><br />On my folks' Chicago corner one neighbor makes a sport of counting the few who honor the stop sign at all. Carenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15948322374348472360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-52999248286745085202020-11-29T07:03:18.026-06:002020-11-29T07:03:18.026-06:00Obviously, the meaning is to end what are commonly...Obviously, the meaning is to end what are commonly known as "California Stops", where the driver just slows down & rolls through at a low speed. <br />I see more & more of them around Chicago, with Oak Park possibly being the worst, as almost no one driving on a side street in Oak Park, bothers to stop at the stop sign when they come to a main street. Clark St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09634234069783123180noreply@blogger.com