tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post6990577184247837270..comments2024-03-28T01:35:19.028-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/28/24: Lee Harvey Oswald wanted butter on the tableNeil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-4638476974836767092017-10-27T19:23:28.496-05:002017-10-27T19:23:28.496-05:00How do you identify satire in today's world wh...How do you identify satire in today's world when it's source is anonymous, or unknown, or private? If you're anonymous, you're just adding to the din. Tony Galatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11944671504245191140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-32617129403680446802017-10-27T18:38:49.711-05:002017-10-27T18:38:49.711-05:00Reading an article in the august N. Y. Times about...Reading an article in the august N. Y. Times about the release of the files. The second most "reader recommended" comment and a "NYT Pick" comment, at that, is as follows:<br /><br />"I, in no way believe in the average conspiracy theory - but there is no way Lee Harvey acted alone or perhaps even at all that day.<br /><br />Magic Bullet!? The back of Kennedy's head getting blown out and his head shoved backward?! Lee Harvey just happens to work in a building that after the route is changed has a credible shooters perch (from one direction). Jack Ruby!? A mobster who owed everyone and new the cops super well!?<br />And all the other stuff. Baloney. We are not stupid.<br /><br />No way. You'll never sell me that Oswald acted alone. And perhaps even knew what was going to happen.<br /><br />No way."<br /><br />Those sound like core, long-since debunked, elements of "average conspiracy theories" to me. "Perhaps even at all?" Sheesh, these people. Sounds like an average Trump voter, though... Jakashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-37596295986250588192017-10-26T10:29:03.074-05:002017-10-26T10:29:03.074-05:00Kennedy wanted to inspect Israel's nuclear pro...Kennedy wanted to inspect Israel's nuclear program. Some have alleged the Mossad hired Mafia shooters to do the job. A lot of people hated Kennedy. Kids in Dallas stood up and cheered when they heard the news.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06863095200908113268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-35400568548077529082017-10-26T08:34:14.844-05:002017-10-26T08:34:14.844-05:00I think Anonymous meant it is impossible to convin...I think Anonymous meant it is impossible to convince 100s/1000s of folks to fudge data, hence arguing against the conspiracies he's mentioning (and in general).Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03634642987617262810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-13204176631190953842017-10-25T18:29:38.547-05:002017-10-25T18:29:38.547-05:00also ruby was mobbed up in his capacity as a night...also ruby was mobbed up in his capacity as a night club ownerFMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06829632906445535928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-44753314406181988032017-10-25T18:28:49.810-05:002017-10-25T18:28:49.810-05:00speculation on the mobs involvement revolved aroun...speculation on the mobs involvement revolved around the work the presidents brother bobby was doing as attorney general to thwart their enterpriseFMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06829632906445535928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-23209100362116360332017-10-25T15:34:48.557-05:002017-10-25T15:34:48.557-05:00So, investigators conspire to "fudge the data...So, investigators conspire to "fudge the data" in response to conspiracy theories? That's quite a theory.Tony Galatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11944671504245191140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-65392564856446801332017-10-25T15:22:22.856-05:002017-10-25T15:22:22.856-05:00What I find interesting about that footage is the ...What I find interesting about that footage is the look on the faces of the policemen as they watch their law enforcement careers evaporating before their very eyes.<br /><br />johntatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088632798195131329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-16615018146539903992017-10-25T15:07:26.326-05:002017-10-25T15:07:26.326-05:00I remember seeing the live footage of Ruby shootin...I remember seeing the live footage of Ruby shooting Oswald, which seemed too obvious to me, hence my wondering if it was all a set up. SandyKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-74591258999070600802017-10-25T13:44:43.171-05:002017-10-25T13:44:43.171-05:00I'm shocked by the, seemingly, intelligent fol...I'm shocked by the, seemingly, intelligent folks that continue with the hype of conspiracy whenever the situation calls for it....controlled explosives in the WTC on 9/11 and the newest with multiple gunman in LasVegas. I'm sure they somehow convince hundreds (if not thousands) of investigators to fudge the data and lie about their findings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-77292150501303140512017-10-25T11:32:36.458-05:002017-10-25T11:32:36.458-05:00Thom Hartman and Lamar Waldron wrote this book. ht...Thom Hartman and Lamar Waldron wrote this book. https://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Secrecy-Long-Shadow-Assassination/dp/1582435359 For those of you who might not know Hartman is a liberal talk show host. I forget the reason, but they believe the mob was involved. Not sure how they found Oswald or there was another gunman. I think there was a documentary based on the book. I would have to look on line. I don't think Hartman is a conspiracy theorist. Needless to say it was too bad Ruby killed Oswald. sanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06580867647162091670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-6968498496179831252017-10-25T10:05:11.543-05:002017-10-25T10:05:11.543-05:00The basic motive one that made sense to me in my y...The basic motive one that made sense to me in my younger days was that folks looked at the Cuban Missile Crisis and concluded Kennedy actually _would_ use nukes to solve problems, so he was assassinated to keep things safer for the world, whether by the CIA, the KGB, or who knows? But I incline to the official story -- shot by Oswald for banal reasons.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03634642987617262810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-4047640004135806612017-10-25T09:56:20.988-05:002017-10-25T09:56:20.988-05:00"since I'm the crypt keeper, apparently, ..."since I'm the crypt keeper, apparently, for this kind of thing." Seems legit. After all, you're the Jewish atheist guy with the 17-volume New Catholic Encyclopedia, aren't you? ; )<br /><br />Having read the Warren report and "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner, I also really liked this NOVA program called "Cold Case JFK" that was on a while back. It presents an investigation into certain questions ("but his head jerked *backwards*, how could one bullet have done what they said it did?," etc.) that conspiracy-minded folks love to focus on, using modern forensic science. Uh, spoiler alert -- the questions are effectively answered. It's about 45 minutes long and is on YouTube, if anybody wants to watch it, but I suppose that's not really sanctioned, so I'll link to the official site:<br /><br />http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html Jakashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-17188262523521999902017-10-25T09:25:42.214-05:002017-10-25T09:25:42.214-05:00I have never heard a Kennedy assassination conspir...I have never heard a Kennedy assassination conspiracy theory that made sense to me. And I'm not talking about magic bullets and grassy knolls. I mean the basic motive--who would want Kennedy dead, and why?<br /><br />The one I hear most often is that it was the CIA, because they were for some reason desperate to keep the fighting in Vietnam going and Kennedy was about to pull out of there. This ignores that 1) grand military strategy is beyond the CIA's purview, 2) Kennedy escalated American military operations in Vietnam throughout his presidency and there is no evidence he ever intended to reverse this, and 3) from what I've seen of the CIA, conceiving and keeping secret a conspiracy like this one would have been far beyond its competence.Bitter Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04645909858616987997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-56948149937744014722017-10-25T07:38:18.929-05:002017-10-25T07:38:18.929-05:00Were Russians behind the Kennedy assassination? Di...Were Russians behind the Kennedy assassination? Did the Russians infiltrate Secretary Clinton's State Department? Did the Russians create a mind control machine? Did they set the stultification dial to 11 when they aimed it at Rick Perry? What were the settings when the mind control ray hit Donald Trump? So many questions, the American people need answers. It is all clear now, there is no other choice, to get to the bottom of this the U.S. Attorney General must appoint a Russian Tsar or Tsarina.<br />But seriously, Jack Ruby was indoctrinated by his father who was a veteran of the Russian Army. Their graves can be found at Westlawn Cemetery in Norridge.Berniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157600812959885192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-90584838317292561502017-10-25T07:01:31.538-05:002017-10-25T07:01:31.538-05:00the warren commission report which I assume is wha...the warren commission report which I assume is what Neill is in possession of did withhold information at the time of its release which led to much speculation that there was more to the story that the public wasn't being told. subsequent government reports including the house select committee on assassinations, a hearing I listened to at work in the late 70s ,concluded that there was no evidence of a conspiracy . many refused to believe this. maybe the release of withheld documents will finally put these notions to rest. I doubt it and expect a new round of speculation will result.FMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06829632906445535928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-26560478375783367362017-10-25T04:53:06.992-05:002017-10-25T04:53:06.992-05:00Conspiracy theories are what we create in an attem...Conspiracy theories are what we create in an attempt to rationalize the irrational, or to realize an unimaginable reality. We boldly speak the unspeakable, while congratulating our clouded cleverness. Tony Galatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11944671504245191140noreply@blogger.com