tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post8652735242043404814..comments2024-03-18T21:09:10.627-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/19/24: The CTA cuts through the clutterNeil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-17843254384308014972015-06-05T20:17:16.769-05:002015-06-05T20:17:16.769-05:00Saw this on yesterday's blog, took the liberty...Saw this on yesterday's blog, took the liberty of reposting it here incase no one was checking the old blog. This person nails it on the head.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Padraig ElliotJune 5, 2015 at 2:23 PM<br /><br />Caitlin Jenner will never experience the realities of life as a woman or as a trans person, because Jenner is insulated by extreme privilege. While women make 78 cents for a dollar earned by a man, Jenner's speaking fees are likely to quadruple as a result of his gender-reassignment. Jenner supports a political party which promotes a platform openly hostile to LGBT people. Again, the insulation of privilege will ensure that Jenner will never experience the negative consequences of that party's actions. Working-class, middle-class and poor LGBT people will not be so fortunate.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-27759958820519281962015-06-05T17:17:54.850-05:002015-06-05T17:17:54.850-05:00I can assure you I did it in the most prim and pro...I can assure you I did it in the most prim and proper way possible.Coeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06130250489695215525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-42237828201311270692015-06-05T17:03:28.250-05:002015-06-05T17:03:28.250-05:00What a prissy story, Coey! Sounds just like you. ...What a prissy story, Coey! Sounds just like you. ; )Jakashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-64910360304949350852015-06-05T15:45:07.249-05:002015-06-05T15:45:07.249-05:00Saw some piece about millenials not using cars as ...Saw some piece about millenials not using cars as much if live in the city or Evanston. In the suburbs you would need cars , often one per driver in families. But glad we don't have to deal with the dangers of dirty and dangerous public transport or waiting for that in all weather. Nothing as convenient as own car, we just don't buy gas guzzling suvs.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-72491729099341784452015-06-05T15:27:30.103-05:002015-06-05T15:27:30.103-05:00I was pretty glad someone had left their crap behi...I was pretty glad someone had left their crap behind the time I was on the el and had to throw up into a discarded Big Gulp cup. (I was pregnant and, thank God, alone in the car.) Coeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06130250489695215525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-19933453505635406082015-06-05T13:25:43.389-05:002015-06-05T13:25:43.389-05:00Nope, not the board police. (And who are you, &quo...Nope, not the board police. (And who are you, "Anonymous"?)<br /><br />The reason I've been more critical of mostly "anon" comments is simply because there are so many anonymous commenters here -- unless there are only one or two who are posting twenty times a day. The commenters who use actual names (Bitter Scribe for example) generally stick to the topics, and if they disagree about something, it's in the context of discussing the topic, not a personal insult such as "you double posted and learn how to spell Neil". <br /><br />Anyway, you can rejoice since I won't be calling out anyone again. Just going to enjoy the blog. Peace.<br /><br /><br /><br />SandyKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-41323053317954458402015-06-05T12:34:47.291-05:002015-06-05T12:34:47.291-05:00oooh, I like when you talk dirtyoooh, I like when you talk dirtyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-60374633659653424332015-06-05T12:33:54.021-05:002015-06-05T12:33:54.021-05:00That's prob because few can get those darn Tr...That's prob because few can get those darn Trib. sites and blogs open.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-74934713521340094272015-06-05T12:32:36.487-05:002015-06-05T12:32:36.487-05:00Always appreciate a Churchill quote but what does ...Always appreciate a Churchill quote but what does aver mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-70976050379277024262015-06-05T12:31:35.928-05:002015-06-05T12:31:35.928-05:00what are you? the board police? and why must you p...what are you? the board police? and why must you point out everything on anons?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-52060782575478190662015-06-05T12:30:38.328-05:002015-06-05T12:30:38.328-05:00Marsha, then you are encouraging your offspring to...Marsha, then you are encouraging your offspring to disrespect you as well and get arrogant with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-22165929080999875002015-06-05T12:25:59.233-05:002015-06-05T12:25:59.233-05:00that answers a lot, "personal qualms" li...that answers a lot, "personal qualms" like Ms. Weber's based on upbringing, even if not rel, that explains some of my thoughts, thanks for enlightening<br /><br />keeping one's parents values so to speakAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-33553756282630231612015-06-05T12:12:42.925-05:002015-06-05T12:12:42.925-05:00Completely off-topic, but noteworthy to me. The L...Completely off-topic, but noteworthy to me. The Lara Weber piece in the Tribune that Neil refers to, fire-walled and preceded by a 15-second mandatory ad, even for subscribers, has elicited 7 comments in the 7 days that it's been posted. Neil's piece ABOUT hers already has been remarked upon by at least ten people.Jakashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-85869389345075713892015-06-05T11:56:45.621-05:002015-06-05T11:56:45.621-05:00If nothing else, the crap creates job opportunitie...If nothing else, the crap creates job opportunities that were going to ex-cons (who have an exceedingly harder time finding work), though I think there was a controversy recently where they were going to transfer those jobs to other CTA workers or somesuch.<br /><br />Eventually everything in the future as far as advertising goes is going to be like a George Saunders story - he already predicted half of it.Anon-not-Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-59437916203906176422015-06-05T11:53:02.763-05:002015-06-05T11:53:02.763-05:00As for the actual crap on the CTA, as opposed to t...As for the actual crap on the CTA, as opposed to the word being used to describe it... Mr. Savage, who made the first comment here, posted on his twitter a while back a vintage '50's version of a CTA "please don't litter" reminder. I wouldn't know, but I imagine that it was about as effective as this one will be. As he noted: "Some fights never end." If people couldn't be "reminded" into doing the right thing in the 50's, what chance is there now? <br /><br />Is there a fine for strewing crap around on the train or bus? Is it ever assessed? Because that's the only thing that could ever change the status quo, it seems to me. I wouldn't necessarily want to live in Singapore, where you can only buy chewing gum from a pharmacist, e.g., but I imagine that the buses are pretty clean there, due to strict enforcement. I'm not sure that A-n-A's idea of using the cameras to "publicly shame" folks would work. In today's selfie-obsessed culture, methinks having one's picture highlighted would be seen as cool, regardless of the fact that one was supposed to be ashamed.<br /><br />As far as I can tell, the only thing that changes such behaviors is enforcement. I'm a grudging supporter of the streetlight cameras, despite all their drawbacks, because of this. People know that running red lights is wrong and that many of their fellow citizens frown on the practice. They know that if a cop is nearby, they could get a ticket. But knowing those things doesn't seem to change the behavior of offenders. I'm not even sure of this, but one would imagine that about the third time one gets a $100 ticket because of the cameras, one might begin to think about getting with the program. So, if the CTA could use their ubiquitous cameras to actually enforce the littering rules somehow, maybe some people might begin to take the rules more seriously. Otherwise, given the "slippery slimy slope" Tate refers to above, I expect that in 2050 folks can look forward to signs saying something like "Quit leaving your goddamn shit on the fucking train, assholes!"Jakashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-25307705373678006502015-06-05T11:29:04.113-05:002015-06-05T11:29:04.113-05:00In Lara Weber's defense, I thought she was fai...In Lara Weber's defense, I thought she was fairly moderate in making her point, casting her qualm as a personal quirk based on upbringing. And she was a good sport, sending me a cheerful note today. We all have our pet peeves. I wince when the New Yorker uses "insure" in place of what I believe should be "ensure." I guess the difference is that I would never upbraid them about their choice. I just don't like it.Neil Steinberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-86258374810821544792015-06-05T10:56:23.069-05:002015-06-05T10:56:23.069-05:00@Anonymous above -- Why must you point out everyth...@Anonymous above -- Why must you point out everything you believe is a "mistake".? It's easy to double post something, and it's easy to transpose "Neil" into "Niel". I know that Marsha knows how to spell Neil's name.SandyKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-59559776916816125852015-06-05T09:31:14.286-05:002015-06-05T09:31:14.286-05:00good one, Coeygood one, CoeyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-33897334709863518972015-06-05T09:28:58.826-05:002015-06-05T09:28:58.826-05:00It occurred to me that NS could have written almos...It occurred to me that NS could have written almost the exact same thing if the CTA had used the word "shit" instead of "crap" (if anything, the former is more commonly used) and I'm not sure if everyone would be as on-board. I think the only problem with the Trib writer's column is that the "crap" horse has left the barn so long ago, it's not only a losing battle, it might be counterproductive: we might want to *encourage* the use of the word crap to stem the tide of worse words!Anon-not-Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-77096114807207529982015-06-05T09:27:45.535-05:002015-06-05T09:27:45.535-05:00Thanks for taking down that prissy Tribune op-ed, ...Thanks for taking down that prissy Tribune op-ed, which annoyed me too.Bitter Scribenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-10040180407371644732015-06-05T09:26:03.926-05:002015-06-05T09:26:03.926-05:00I'm reminded of the Danish Mohammed cartoons (... I'm reminded of the Danish Mohammed cartoons (not Charlie Hebdo and the subsequent attacks in Europe and the Middle East. There were calls for U.S. newspapers to reprint them, simply as a matter of full and accurate journalism. Most didn't, allegedly out of a "golden rule" kind of thing very similar to using the "n-word." A couple of University of Illinois students lost their jobs at the student paper for reprinting them. If we're going to talk about the chilling effects of "pious dogma and pointless rule" I think the Muslim version of the n-word should be included. <br />(For the record, I don't have a problem with a"golden rule" policy myself).<br /><br />As for the CTA, yeah, "crap" seems pretty tame, but I'm sympathetic to the "slouching towards ghemorrah" argument too. And I don't see anything too bold in the CTA doing this - seems like a way to avoid the mess of practicing some broken window theory by making examples out of some people. How about putting all those video cameras on the bus and train to good use and publicly shame a few of those trashing yahoos?Anon-not-Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-52525249107809186822015-06-05T09:18:33.951-05:002015-06-05T09:18:33.951-05:00If NS's son consults virtually any style guide...If NS's son consults virtually any style guide, he'll see that he is, in fact, incorrect to aver that a sentence shouldn't end in a preposition. As Churchill may or may not have put it, "That is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put." He's right about "whom," though.Coeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06130250489695215525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-1856939784441829512015-06-05T08:56:30.519-05:002015-06-05T08:56:30.519-05:00Can't resist saying that I hope this doesn'...Can't resist saying that I hope this doesn't lead to a slippery slimy slope.<br /><br />Johntatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088632798195131329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-63336808922027856302015-06-05T08:43:39.072-05:002015-06-05T08:43:39.072-05:00you double posted and learn how to spell Neil, the...you double posted and learn how to spell Neil, there, since you like correctionsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-2096723141739999512015-06-05T08:25:24.791-05:002015-06-05T08:25:24.791-05:00I personally approve of your son pointing out gram... I personally approve of your son pointing out grammar errors! And yes, I agree that it is generally rude to do it as a rule in informal situations, we do it in my house regularly! A colleague of my husband's mentioned that wasn't it unseemly of his wife to correct his grammar, and Kevin responded that it's not only not unseemly, but that he had asked me to do it! Now both of my kids do it to both of us. And there was nothing wrong with Niel's response, either!<br /> Excellent article! Knowing and using the appropriate language inappropriate places is wonderful, and sometimes that language is a bit salty! <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00797166372598217294noreply@blogger.com