Monday morning was rainy. But my newspapers were nice and dry, waiting for me at the foot of my walk, through the miracle of plastic bag technology. The New York Times in its regal blue bag. The Chicago Sun-Times in its yellow bag, echoing a previous color scheme as "The Bright One."
The bags not only protect the papers from becoming a sodden, pulpy, useless mess — and anyone who has even had a bag with a hole in it on a rainy day has experienced that. But they also have a second life, for me, as doggie bags. The standard green doggie bags, on the little rolls, are fine. But they're small. And you have to tug them, hard, to get them off the roll, then find the opening. It's work, almost.
The bags not only protect the papers from becoming a sodden, pulpy, useless mess — and anyone who has even had a bag with a hole in it on a rainy day has experienced that. But they also have a second life, for me, as doggie bags. The standard green doggie bags, on the little rolls, are fine. But they're small. And you have to tug them, hard, to get them off the roll, then find the opening. It's work, almost.
Not a problem with the newspaper bags, which are much more capacious. Your hand glides in easily. Though I do routinely pass them through a circle made of my thumb and index finger, to inflate the end, checking for the aforementioned holes, which you do not want to discover after picking up dog poop with them. Trust me.
Honestly, I'd never given the bags much thought, and probably never would. But one of my readers raised an issue that had never crossed my mind, not once in a lifetime of subscribing to newspapers. He began by addressing me in the third person, which caused me to check if I were part of an email chain. No, just me. He writes:
Honestly, I'd never given the bags much thought, and probably never would. But one of my readers raised an issue that had never crossed my mind, not once in a lifetime of subscribing to newspapers. He began by addressing me in the third person, which caused me to check if I were part of an email chain. No, just me. He writes:
Terrific columns by Steinberg.Then he signed his full name, plus place of employment.
Would you ask the appropriate person at your medium to explain to home delivery paper customers how to dispose of the plastic bags the delivery people put the papers in.
Grocery stores except the plastic bags back that they put groceries in, but will not accept the colored bags that Newspaper delivery people deliver the newspapers in. Where can we recycle those?
The Lakeshore recycling company which has the contract in the town where I live says these are not appropriate for its recycling.
What’s the difference in the type of plastic and where can we take these Newspaper bags especially those of us who subscribe to multiple papers each day Via delivery?
Odd, right? "The appropriate person at your medium"? Who says that? And who is so stymied by this issue that he writes to his newspaper, seeking guidance? It seemed an issue an adult could suss out for himself, unaided.
I considered my response carefully, nudged toward gentleness by his subscribing to the paper. Ordering the hounds of sarcasm back to their kennels, I wrote:
That's a new one. And while I mostly just write stuff that goes in the newspaper, I suppose it's easier for me to respond to your quandary than to try to find someone else.
Let's see ... have you considered buying a dog? I have a dog, and the newspaper bags make perfect vehicles for picking up dog poop, far superior to the tiny ones that come on green rolls. That would be my solution. A dog really enriches one's life.
But if owning a dog is impractical, the bags can also be thrown away. Or if that is too hard on the environment, you could collect the bags and send them to me. My dog typically goes three times a day, but I only subscribe to two newspapers, the Sun-Times and the New York Times, so I am always in need of more newspaper bags. Let me know if that is the solution you prefer, and I will send you my address.
I hope that helps. Thanks for writing.
Alas, no response. Which is a shame, because I really do like to use those newspaper bags for Kitty's necessities. The walk when I'm without one, well, the experience is slightly diminished. Maybe he'll buy a dog — then I'll really be hearing from him. "These cans of dog food, how am I to open them?"

Couldn't you just use several sheets of newspaper?
ReplyDeletethat is what i did when I had a dog. Actually I just put paper under neath when he started to squat. Probably not as good as a paper bag.
DeleteAs someone who does my best to reuse as much as possible and avoid putting things in landfills that could potentially have a second life I think this is an excellent question. When I finish my newspapers I give them to animal shelters who need them to line cages. They often will take the bags also for the same purpose as Kitty when people take the dogs for walks. That would be a good place to check.
ReplyDelete2 Jewels I patronize, Howard Street and Cicero Ave.- Irving Park Rd both have receptacles at front door for exactly this purpose; plastic newspaper wrap collection for recycling. From there, a sign states bags will then be recycled. Maybe /perhaps other Jewels might also provide this service, but don't know.
DeleteDon't know what is worse: poop bags or Trump. Wait, it's coming to me - Trump!!!
ReplyDelete1. Getting a dog seems like the simplest option. 2. Why couldn't the person ask AI for a solution? If we are going to give up thinking for ourselves, might as well use the technology that's going to carry us all onward.
ReplyDeleteThe grocery stores take any bags, no matter what the color. Walmart has a sign at its plastic bag container that they take any soft plastic, but don't want hard plastic. I throw in the rings that hols bottles of pop in the bag recycling too.
ReplyDeleteLong before the little green scented bags donned every leash and dog park entrance there was the blue Tribune and New York Times bags which filled the brown terracotta planter near the front door.
ReplyDeleteHenrietta's poop bags.
Emptied a few times a week so that it would never smell; I always wondered, what did people without dogs do with the bags... I suppose they just gave them to Hen's humans.
Enjoyed your amusing response to this sincere, yet baffled, reader. Respectfully, two thoughts come to mind. Buy a dog? How about rescue a dog? Infinitely better option. And just why are newspapers delivered in non recyclable bags? Assume it's economics. Cause everything is. Isn't part of their mission to act in the public interest? Recyclable bags would serve that objective. Certainly The Gray Lady could find the shekels to make this happen. Then they could brag about it and watch others follow their lead. Been walking our rescue dogs (on #5 now) for 25 years. You are correct; those tiny bags in green rolls are a pain in the ass.
ReplyDeleteThey are recyclable. The letter writer was mistaken.
DeleteOf course, when I said, "buy a dog" I misspoke. Though if I recall, anti-cruelty groups also hit you up, they just call it something else.
DeleteAs a boy scout in the late sixties they would have paper drives. We would pass out flyers through our neighborhood a couple months in advance and then we would walk around the alleys on the day we asked them to put out the stacks and throw them in the back of scout leaders and Dad's station wagons.
ReplyDeleteSomehow this raised money for our troop. 2210 rattlesnake patrol
I guess these papers were worth something to the scrap yard where we brought them. Then they weren't they were just too many
In my twenties I subscribed to both the sun times and tribune. It was affordable you know I only made something like $6 an hour.
My girlfriend liked the New York times and would buy it at the newsstand well the Sunday. Created quite a stack of papers around the house. Never heard from the boy scouts
What I understand there was some type of derogatory about using them to line your bird cage. We put them in our cat's litter box.
This went on for decades. I read online now as I am this very moment.
Never had to deal with the bag so it seems you found a good use
I recognize the speech pattern of your readers email. Good of you to not be harsh.
I have a boy who is as they say on the spectrum. Has a college degree and a pretty good job. No disparagement meant.
Have a couple dogs buy the rolls of bags. He could send me his as well.
In our neighborhood there are bag stations filled by volunteers from what I can tell he could stick them in there if there's one near him or them.
Long time reader
I collect all my plastic bags including newspaper sleeves and drop them off at the plastic bag recycling receptacle at the entrance to my neighborhood Meijer or Mariano's. No one has ever checked to see what type of plastic I was dropping off. I assume when they empty the receptacle they just throw them in the trash, but I have done my part.
ReplyDeleteSo - how do I get my NYT Sunday bag to you?
ReplyDeleteThe Sunday bags are sub-par because they often rip, due to the wider coverage of the Sunday Times.
DeleteSome people are going to say you should subscribe to the Tribune to get that third bag for Kitty's excursions. I say just use a bread bag. A loaf of bread cost about the same as the Tribune, and it's better suited for consumption.
ReplyDeletebravo, Tony.
Deleteand agreed.
people, people! it doesn't matter if jewel or marianos take the bags, soft bags like that (i.e newspaper sleeves) are . not. recyclable. they just end up in a landfill as if you put them in the garbage yourself instead of using a middleman. mr. s, i'd be glad to send them to you, but your leafy residence is too far for me to schlep and i'm not going to mail them. if anyone living near roscoe village would like me to save mine for dog waste carriers, let me know how to reach you and tell you where to pick them up
DeleteTruth. Most plastic is not recycled.
DeleteRecycling has not been the answer consumers hoped for to placate their voracious consumption
Tom
pgw and tom- The film plastic used for newspaper sleeves is indeed recyclable and companies are innovating new uses. One partner of the recycling service I use is called Trex. They make sustainable, eco-friendly decking out of shredded plastic film and old wood. You can find out more at . Though its better to just reduce use of plastic, there are places other than landfills for it to go.
DeleteI'm not sure what your high falutin correspondent is talking about. Jewel takes newspaper bags. Alternatively they could save clean, whole bags and return them to their delivery person.
ReplyDeleteI also repurpose the bags given for fruits and vegetables from the supermarket for doggy duty (pun intended).
ReplyDeleteMy understanding is that grocery stores will indeed accept newspapers bags -- along with plastic bags from a dry cleaners and even (nowadays) cereal bags.
ReplyDeleteI drop mine off at the local Jewel, which has a "recycling bin" for plastic bags.
ReplyDeleteWho says you can’t recycle the bags at the grocery store? I also stuff cleaner bags into newspaper bags (4-5 will fit if squashed) abd recycle at the store.
ReplyDeleteHave used them for kitty duty for many years (see what I did there?), even though they are the wrong shape. Too long and narrow. They can be put in a wooden dispenser box and placed outside, for dog walkers...of which we have many. Our box is next to our outdoor book library. Kids with dogs really like to take a book and a bag.
ReplyDeleteUntil it fell apart, we also had a wooden box next to the book cabinet.
DeleteThe sign read: "DOG LIBRARY: Take a stick, leave a stick."
Wasn't very big, though. Just a branch library.
re: "Grocery stores except [sp] the plastic bags back that they put groceries in, but will not accept the colored bags that Newspaper delivery people deliver the newspapers in" : Jewel accepts #2 and #4 bags/film including "newspaper bags", and their parent Albertson's website says so at https://www.albertsonscompanies.com/about-aci/our-impact/Recycling-Information/default.aspx and at https://s29.q4cdn.com/239956855/files/our_impact/plastic/AbsCos_PlasticBagWrap_InStore_Bin-website.pdf . But it's hard to know what actually happens to the bags after you drop them off in the recycling bins located at the Jewel store entrances.
ReplyDeleteIn the early 60s, I paid a short visit to some drinking buddies who were then living in Wisconsin and was amazed to see that they were required to sort their garbage into 4 or 5 categories...on pain of death I guess, as these people weren't the type that obeyed a whole lot of rules, whereas they were fanatical in putting their trash in the appropriate container. Not sure if it was Milwaukee or way North, but somehow way back then, they got better results than the City of Chicago ever has even in our supposed enlightened eras.
ReplyDeletetate
If you are doing or having some painting done that includes the ceiling they are just the right size to put on the ceiling fan blades, if you have them.
ReplyDeleteI'm definitely an outlier on the topic of recycling here as I'm even more fanatical than tate's Milwaukee drinking buddies of the 60's. For the longest time, my Sun Times came double-bagged (in PINK plastic). You can request double bagged in your account preferences, but I didn't request it. I asked the delivery guy to please reduce plastic - only ONE plastic bag, please! It took a long time and yet I still sometimes get a double-bagged paper. If my local Jewel didn't accept newspaper sleeves in their plastic bag recycling bins, my conscience would force me to cancel my subscription. In our household, you can't buy eggs in (non recyclable) styrofoam. Cardboard egg crates only. And so on. When we dog-sit the granddogs, the biodegradable bags go in our compost bins (our compost piles wouldn't survive the onslaught if we had a dog as a permanent family member, though.... ). We use minimal plastic, and subscribe to a recycling service. $25 every 2 months gives us 2 (ironically, plastic) bags to fill. I recycle 'thin' plastic that Jewel won't take, like plastic mailing envelopes and bread bags in one, and in the other... crinkly plastic.... pretty much any bag that food comes in, like chip bags. We collect the stuff at the base of our basement stairs and when I get a pile, I stack it in a pile, roll it tight, then pack the roll into the recycling bag.
ReplyDeleteEvery other month, I take the filled recycling bags to the post office and they're sent off to be recycled - in the prepaid postage bags.
A good recycling program in our town, plus our compost piles, keeps our garbage bin fairly empty.
Back when I was a kid, we paid tax on pop bottles but got the money back when we returned to bottles. It took effort to store the empty pop bottles and return them to the store. We don't do that anymore, but there's an entire sliding scale of interventions now available to reduce our contribution of plastics into our ecosystem. You don't have to be nuts like me, but every effort helps, including all the suggestions for alternate uses for those plastic newspaper sleeves.
One can only hope that 10% of your loyal readers begin mailing bags to you. May you be blessed by daily mail bags to the point that you need to adopt/rescure another friend of man. My takeaway from today...."Ordering the hounds of sarcasm back to their kennels."
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