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Wednesday, October 14, 2026

Trump weighs a public execution, which once elicited delight — and revulsion


     A reader writes, aghast at government plans to livestream the execution of Nidal Malik Hasan, the U.S. Army major who murdered 13 fellow soldiers at Fort Hood in 2009.
     “I am so upset, so disgusted and in disbelief,” she says. “What has happened to this country?”
     I want to sympathize, but can’
     “Disbelief?” I reply. “Really? You are paying attention, right? This is very on brand for them.”
     Between condemning children in Africa to death by denying food — and now vaccines — to shooting Americans in the street for failing to comply promptly to the orders of masked men, to the certain atrocities going on out of sight in windowless ICE prisons nationwide, the idea of the government beginning to ballyhoo their horrors has a certain appeal. At least we’ll be able to witness this one. And unlike most victims of official violence, Hasan bears undeniable guilt.
     I’m generally against the death penalty, because it is so misapplied, racially and economically. But I’m willing to make exceptions — I’m glad Timothy McVeigh is not still around, writing manifestos, enjoying cheeseburgers and watching Netflix in his cell. Hasan falls into that category.
     Which doesn’t mean his death should be served up as public entertainment? Or should it?
     We’ve fallen out of practice watching public executions. To get myself in the spirit, I pulled down a collection of William Makepeace Thackeray’s journalism and reread “Going to See a Man Hanged.”
     Writing in 1840, the future author of “Vanity Fair” spends pages setting the scene — his sleepless night before friends arrive in a carriage at 3 a.m., imagining the final hours of “the poor wretch” awaiting execution. The gallows set up in the street before Newgate Prison; the sight sends “a kind of dumb electric shock” through Thackeray. The “gentle and good humored” crowd of 40,000 — Charles Dickens is also there. The cursing ragamuffins and teenage prostitutes, “giggling, drinking, and romping.” The jokes, the rumors, the catcalls.
     The condemned man, François Courvoisier, a Swiss valet who slit the throat of his employer, regards the crowd with “a wild, imploring look. His mouth, contracted into a sort of pitiful smile.”

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18 comments:

  1. I don't have to wait for it to happen to be disgusted. By Pete Hegseth, truly a despicable, broken human being. The damage he has done to the ideals of America is incalculable. He can't be part of the detritus of history soon enough.

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  2. Someone needs to ask that drunken lunatic Kegsbreath if he is going to be one of the firing squad.
    If not, he's just another vainglorious pile of shit play acting as a tough guy & is actually too cowardly to shoot someone, even though he seems to get orgasmic over announcing the act!

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  3. So many people get offended when truth is spoken.

    Hillary Clinton called them "deplorable."

    Turns out, they are.

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  4. I’m surprised few discuss something sources claimed when DT was elected first time. In 1990 he told a writer he had Mein Kampf on his bedside table, with later claims that it was actually a compilation of Hitler’s writings. Not surprisingly he later claimed he never said any of that. I looked up a summary of MK just now, as I only recall it in vague, but key terms:
    Hitler viewed escalating tolerance of violence as a predictable manipulation of public psychology, detailing several key insights on how a population responds to force:
    • The Psyche of the Masses: Hitler asserted that the broad populace behaves like a submissive entity that prefers domination over freedom. He wrote: "The psyche of the broad masses is accessible only to what is strong and uncompromising... They feel inwardly more satisfied by a doctrine which tolerates no rival than by one which affords them the freedom of choice."
    • The Psychological Utility of Terror: He argued that escalating, calculated physical terror breaks down a population's will to resist, eventually forcing their compliance.
    • Submission Over Moral Outrage: In his view, a nation subjected to persistent and aggressive force does not react with sustained moral outrage; instead, it succumbs out of a desire for stability, order, and alignment with the winning side. He claimed that while individual intellectuals might protest, the broader nation ultimately bows to a shows of absolute authority and aggressive certainty.
    This sounds very much like his playbook. He has the means and motive to buy what he wants now, anything; his resources have only grown exponentially through time, despite the immense costs born by those of little relative power. Even the disabled.
    Our Supreme Court is hobbled, to say the least. And a majority of the Senate…are propped up by God knows what means.
    What now?

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    1. Sorry, I am not buying it. Oh, not that he has stumbled into a way of working up the masses, he certainly has no trouble doing that. But I just can't believe he has a well thought out plan. I certainly don't believe he has read book past school; the man is truly dumb. Maybe people around him have a plan, but our President has shown he cannot get a concept correct. He certainly is not capable of details.

      If the universe has a conscience this certainly is a cruel joke that has been played on us. Not a mastermind but an imbecile takes down a 200+ year old republic.

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    2. You may be correct Matt but that “imbecile” took down a nation. If he’s merely what you say - “imbecile” - he had a strategy and it worked throughout his life to get him what he wants…even if somebody read it to him and told him what to do. He’s an operative. Worse the people have been complicit.

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    3. Don't believe that the Orange Ogre has ever cracked a book in his life. He's dumber than dirt. Maybe he can't even read. Maybe he has dyslexia and faked his way.

      It's been alleged, many times, that he cheated his way through various schools. He paid people to write his papers, and even to take his exams. He "served" at a military academy and then spent two years at Fordham. And then he transferred to the University Pennsylvania.

      Some sources say Fordham kicked him out. Other sources say Daddy T. bought his son admission to Penn and saw to it that he'd "earn" a business degree, to the tune of donations amounting to a couple of million smackers.

      Agolf Twitler has had the skids greased for him all his life.
      So why should he need to read anything by Adolf Hitler?

      Personally, I don't think he can. Let alone understand it.
      Lackeys read him the Cliff's Notes--and explained them.

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    4. Grizz I would not be surprised if it rolled out just that way. Because roll out it did.
      Perhaps this is all imprinted upon human nature itself.

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    5. The man is on camera admitting that he not only assaults women, but he's allowed to because he's famous. And yet the legacy media still kowtowed to him.

      He's an avowed racist, just look at his full page ad against the innocent central park five. I think his father was even a member of the Klan. And yet the legacy media sane washes.

      He was found guilty of sexual assault 32 times. And yet, everyone clutches their pearls when Hillary Clinton called a spade a spade.

      The guy is literally in the epstien files but we can't call him a murder or a child molester because... I'm not sure seeing as it's literally spelled out in credible FBI reports.

      It doesn't matter what he says, does, or believes in if we don't hold people accountable. I'm sure he would love to put hitler and the entire population of the eagles nest on his cabinet because "they're fine people."

      Nothing matters so long as there are people to protect him. So long as there is citizens united and republicans.

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  5. A televised execution might cause some to turn away from this administration's violence and cruelty. But that's not worth the debasement of watching, and thereby participating, in a killing.

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  6. I feel sad that there are people who find an execution entertaining. A couple of friends of mine decided to sit outside Stateville when Gacy was executed. They thought they would get to see the lights dim when the switch was pulled. Turned out it was a lethal injection execution. Much less spectacular, but I was glad that I didn't have to listen to their drunken stories for the rest of the summer.

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  7. Back in late 1989 or early 1990 I viewed video of the firing squad execution of the Ceausecus of Romania. The video was getting lots of attention so I decided to see it for myself. I regret watching it. Whether you agree or disagree with the death penalty, its methods, or the specific details of a particular case, too little attention is given to the impact it has on the executioners and witnesses. In the Ceausecus case, one member of the firing squad said some on the team hesitated while others forgot to switch their guns to automatic firing mode, leaving his gun to inflict the fatal shots. The person who coordinated the execution was promoted to Colonel but killed himself just over 2 months later.
    As a society, we are complicit in the ways our "justice" system metes out its justice. To televise the firing squad execution of a guilty man in a wheelchair says way more about the United States than it does about the crime or the man who committed it. And those who witness the spectacle will be impacted, as well.

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    1. Yes, one of my many reasons for opposing the death penalty is the moral injury it inflicts on the executioners and witnesses.

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    2. Besides the many moral reasons or the possibility (or in the case of our justice system, many) wrongful convictions, what does killing someone achieve?

      it never brings the dead back. and it certainly doesn't prevent more killing. so why waste the time and money

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  8. They may try to monetize it...and make it pay-per-view. Anything for a buck.

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  9. Sadly, I suspect that most who would watch it in the first place will be more exhilarated than disgusted.

    Killing is wrong in almost all cases. State-sponsored killing of someone who now poses no danger is reprehensible.

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  10. I too oppose the death penalty except in the rarest of cases.
    There is an argument that goes the death penalty is not a deterrent. It certainly deters the person who's put to death from doing more killing.

    There are many instances of people ordering killings while in prison.

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  11. Thanks for including the information from Thackeray and Orwell. -- two excellent writers who provide insights into the experience of viewing public executions. I hope the public revulsion at the thought of "live-streaming" the executions will convince members of the Trump administration that it's not a "good idea."

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