tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post5168464148193395193..comments2024-03-29T07:49:20.875-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/29/24: Traitor Week #4: Vidkun Quisling—"A vile race of Quislings"Neil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-7574818525659336882018-07-22T12:09:11.539-05:002018-07-22T12:09:11.539-05:00One of those slef-hating Jews, right? Bingo. I wil...One of those slef-hating Jews, right? Bingo. I will never forgive the Slefs for what they did to us. My own guess is that you don't like words and their meanings--you're anti-semantic. And maybe Norwegian....hence the hissy fit.Grizz 65https://www.blogger.com/profile/02892702223228764894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-14459182262919178602018-07-22T00:22:40.765-05:002018-07-22T00:22:40.765-05:00I will keep calling it bullshit until you stop def...I will keep calling it bullshit until you stop defending a Nazi loving traitor to his people.<br />My guess is that you're an anti-Semite & never will stop defending a traitor to his country!Clark St.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09634234069783123180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-26369710800801940132018-07-21T13:08:55.644-05:002018-07-21T13:08:55.644-05:00Quisling sounds like "weakling", descrip...Quisling sounds like "weakling", descriptive in its' pure sound and when added to the history of the man the word was destined to stick. Trump is a strong word more difficult to apply it to a weasel of a person like Drumpf. Perhaps it can replace ''strongly", especially when used sarcastically.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613528527379198505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-61992372289192867652018-07-21T13:03:27.504-05:002018-07-21T13:03:27.504-05:00If Quisling did the Nazis no favors it wasn't ...If Quisling did the Nazis no favors it wasn't for lack of trying. He started out a traitor and deservedly died as one. JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613528527379198505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-22114372101987905842018-07-21T12:35:02.653-05:002018-07-21T12:35:02.653-05:00Yes, of course he did, in a literal sense. But &qu...Yes, of course he did, in a literal sense. But "to do someone no favors" is a figurative expression, not a literal one. It means "to not be of much help (or often any help at all)" to that someone. It is an idiom. Is English your first language?<br /><br />Read the post again. The Germans neither liked nor trusted him. Quisling finally persuaded them to invade a country that could easily have remained neutral, as Sweden was. The Norwegian people strongly resisted their occupiers, thereby diverting badly-needed forces from other fronts. <br /><br />Quisling's treasonous administration was so ineffective and so despised that the Norwegian puppet eventually became an annoyance and a hindrance to even his own puppet-masters. And yet, even to the very end, he thought of himself as "Norway's Savior." The current occupant of the Oval Office is much like the man who wanted to make Norway great again...and there's even a faint physical similarity. <br /><br />How many more times do you need all this explained, and how many more times are you going to keep chanting "Bullshit, bullshit!" in reply? It's called "reading comprehension" for a reason.Grizz 65https://www.blogger.com/profile/02892702223228764894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-90943518460237288442018-07-21T11:48:30.153-05:002018-07-21T11:48:30.153-05:00If this was a legal journal or the like, your poin...If this was a legal journal or the like, your point would be better taken. But in this context, I think we can safely assume the more colloquial uses of treason, which you can find in the dictionary. Coeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06130250489695215525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-79991927591918913452018-07-20T10:10:00.945-05:002018-07-20T10:10:00.945-05:00True on both counts. Where did I refute either sta...True on both counts. Where did I refute either statement? How, exactly, am I being a revisionist? What have you been smoking? Quisling was a Fascist even before the war, who betrayed both his country and his people. The number of troops needed to occupy Norway, and the Norwegians' heroic resistance to that occupation, are both historical facts.So what the hell are you babbling about? Please enlighten and inform the rest of us. Grizz 65https://www.blogger.com/profile/02892702223228764894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-33696332861977730702018-07-19T15:34:12.480-05:002018-07-19T15:34:12.480-05:00The framers of the Constitution took deliberate st...The framers of the Constitution took deliberate steps to ensure that treason trials would not be used as political weapons against opponents. Article 3, Section 3 defines the crime very narrowly: “Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”<br />enemies are defined very precisely under American treason law. An enemy is a nation or an organization with which the United States is in a declared or open war .<br />Russia is a strategic adversary whose interests are frequently at odds with those of the United States, but for purposes of treason law it is no different than Canada or France<br /><br />words are important. they have agreed upon meanings. try to use words wisely and accuratelyFMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06829632906445535928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-71652296638636230182018-07-19T14:35:09.781-05:002018-07-19T14:35:09.781-05:00Quisling did the Nazis no favors, and actually hel...Quisling did the Nazis no favors, and actually helped bring about their downfall. In a proud nation of only three million citizens, Hitler needed 300,000 troops to combat a very strong Norwegian resistance movement. Strategically, they could have been vital along the Atlantic coast, or sent to fight in Russia. The Germans always claimed their armies were deployed to Norway to repel an Allied invasion, and not to fight the Norwegian people. Yeah, right. <br /><br />Quisling did accomplish one thing,though. He enriched our language with a new word for "traitor" or "betrayer"...in the manner of a "Benedict Arnold." The London Times wrote; "The word quisling (small Q) has the supreme merit of beginning with a "q"...which (with one august exception), has long seemed to the British mind to be a crooked, uncertain, and slightly disreputable letter, suggestive of the questionable, the querulous, the quavering of quaking quagmires and quivering quicksands, of quibbles and quarrels, of queasiness, quackery, qualms, and Quilp (the vicious, ill-tempered villain in a Dickens novel)." The 'august exception' is, of course, the Queen.<br /><br />Will Trump's name have the same fate as Quisling's? Uncapitalized, it already means "to surpass, outdo, outsmart, outwit, best, outscore, or vanquish"...according to Roget's Thesaurus. Pure Donald. But then there is also "trumped-up"..."false, made-up, fraudulent, conconcted, invented, fabricated, devised." Perhaps that is the one that will survive. And it may even become another, less obscene term for a six-letter hyphenated expression that means a botch, a bungle, or a fumble. As in..."The Browns really trumped-up that last play." Or maybe "Wow, dude, you really trumped-up that time. You're a real trump-up, you know that?" Wouldn't surprise me at all.Grizz 65https://www.blogger.com/profile/02892702223228764894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-22080058184719456142018-07-19T13:31:08.065-05:002018-07-19T13:31:08.065-05:00Trumpery is an odd coincidence. It's a perfect...Trumpery is an odd coincidence. It's a perfect fit. Another fit -- and I hate to mention it -- is, trump is an alteration of triumph. (I'm sure Donald doesn't know this or he'd be crowing incessantly.)Tony Galatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11944671504245191140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-49322776867006041122018-07-19T13:21:36.682-05:002018-07-19T13:21:36.682-05:00I never knew that Quisling was too much of a toady...I never knew that Quisling was too much of a toady even for the Nazis to stomach. Which is interesting because Trump also reportedly disdains those who try to suck up to him, at least if he thinks they're doing it out of weakness.Bitter Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04645909858616987997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-2870139286546225512018-07-19T10:31:15.722-05:002018-07-19T10:31:15.722-05:00I think we should repurpose the word "trumper...I think we should repurpose the word "trumpery" to describe the entire panoply of shenanigans that we've come to identify with Donald. The old meaning fits pretty well too.<br /><br />john<br />tatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088632798195131329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-62484828380480381722018-07-19T07:43:00.794-05:002018-07-19T07:43:00.794-05:00A lowercase "trump" will work when used ...A lowercase "trump" will work when used with a qualifier, such as "treasonous trump" or "traitorous trump". Likewise, a person could be charged specifically with "trumperous treason" or "trumpian behavior". But, "Trump" as a standalone noun should be capitalized to avoid confusing pinochle players.Tony Galatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11944671504245191140noreply@blogger.com