tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post8629918435345391773..comments2024-03-29T08:14:50.315-05:00Comments on Every goddamn day: 03/29/24: Au revoir L'Affaire CovingtonNeil Steinberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11468057838260476480noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-1372134714125090962019-01-30T09:23:53.583-06:002019-01-30T09:23:53.583-06:00I attended Catholic high school, all boys. Theory...I attended Catholic high school, all boys. Theory was that we were more prone to immaturity as there were no girls to impress. Partly true I would guess, but I believe that every institution is different. Better teachers garner respect while the defective ones( my school had priests who'd failed elsewhere and should not have been teaching) contribute little. Leadership flows from the faculty through the student body with the total quality of all involved making or breaking the system. Catholic schools paid less and relied on the clergy. Some nuns were talented and dedicated, more so than the priests on the whole. But my experience was unique and I could be wrong. I didn't say that public school kids were any wiser than Catholics, but my impression was they seemed like the underclassmen I matriculated with, and this experience will hasten their maturity. JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613528527379198505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-1076013231544612202019-01-29T23:10:08.452-06:002019-01-29T23:10:08.452-06:00These little brats shlepped all the way from north...These little brats shlepped all the way from northern Kentucky to D.C. so they could be in the annual anti-abortion march. Which means, in other words, that they got out of school and took a long field trip, in order to engage in highly partisan political activity. Did they, at the very least, have to write a report on what they saw and heard and learned at the march? Or will they just get extra credit for the long bus ride--and the partying (and outrageous behavior) that accompanied it?<br /><br />Even more amazingly, Covington Catholic is supposedly some kind of elite and exclusive private institution. Seriously? Are they kidding? What a load of bullcookies.Grizz 65https://www.blogger.com/profile/02892702223228764894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-31119401588245488062019-01-29T22:53:19.161-06:002019-01-29T22:53:19.161-06:00Why John, are high school boys in a public school ...Why John, are high school boys in a public school more mature?Privatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757585399827295128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-91064592739362032952019-01-29T22:51:29.911-06:002019-01-29T22:51:29.911-06:00exactly, JBSexactly, JBSPrivatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757585399827295128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-76018990752765162102019-01-29T22:16:55.225-06:002019-01-29T22:16:55.225-06:00In the matter of L'Affaire Covington, a lot of...In the matter of L'Affaire Covington, a lot of people formed opinions based on minimal facts, including news organizations that should know better. Taking Nathan Phillips <a href="https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2019/01/20/native-american-leader-nathan-phillips-recounts-incident-video/2630256002/" rel="nofollow">cockamamie version</a><br /> of events, and edited video at face value. There are at least a half dozen unedited videos that show what actually occurred. The students had tolerated a long barrage of insults like:<br />go shoot up a school<br />calling them faggots, homosexuals, and pedophiles<br />you're a bunch of incest babies<br />get rid of your lice<br />put a bra on<br />Challenged as a bunch of white crackers, a black student steps forward, they start chanting n-word, n-word. Another black student is seen, they call him a house n-word. Here <a href="https://youtu.be/t3EC1_gcr34?t=4117" rel="nofollow">is a video</a> taken by the Black Hebrew Israelites, queued up to before Phillips makes his appearance. The students got permission from a chaperon to perform some of their school sports chants. It shows Phillips is nothing but a liar. No video shows the kids chanting "Build the wall", using derogatory language, or attacking anyone. Overall the Covington High School kids acquitted themselves well. It was the adults acting like a lot of damn fools. Berniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157600812959885192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-75350426303084248312019-01-29T15:11:38.953-06:002019-01-29T15:11:38.953-06:00The real "crime" here is that the school...The real "crime" here is that the school sent high school boys to protest a woman's right to control her own body. Drop mic. Walks off stage.JBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17139199523230864052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-19880810340880021572019-01-29T12:11:17.493-06:002019-01-29T12:11:17.493-06:00I believe it was Mark Twain who said that when the...I believe it was Mark Twain who said that when the world ends he wants to be in Cincinnati. Because Cincinnati is always 20 years behind the times.<br /><br />Catholic education is known for its rigor. In one of the better back handed compliments, Evelyn Waugh said "ever since the Jesuits stopped defrocking their members for pederasty you can't get good proof reading." One wonders how priests struggle with their retrograde ideas about sex when instructing their charges.<br />Tom Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09641357239788323783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-61805397660694279602019-01-29T12:03:59.728-06:002019-01-29T12:03:59.728-06:00Think before you speak. I resisted judging the ini...Think before you speak. I resisted judging the initial video I saw, knowing that the face-off was just a small part of the story. The MAGA hats an impulse purchase, not a continuing political statement by the students. Hearing them afterwards, I deemed them typical immature Catholic school boys. And I have standing on that issue. This was a common mix of students, not an elite group, like the Parkland kids who rose to the top of their class in the cauldron of their crisis. When I went overseas in the military I was couple years older than many of the other sailors. I recognized immediately that 2 years had given me enough maturity to avoid the automatic impulse many guys had to look down on other cultures. I would wager that many of the Covington kids will wise up quicker from this experience.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613528527379198505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-1446717365755332222019-01-29T11:56:26.467-06:002019-01-29T11:56:26.467-06:00It's such a weird set of circumstances I would...It's such a weird set of circumstances I would hesitate to draw conclusions: the church school boys wearing fascist hats on their field trip were being shouted at by psychotic black racists when a native-American started playing a drum in the kid's face. It'd be hard to make that up. <br /><br />I don't think the kid was in the wrong at all and I think he'll be remembered as the kid who got attacked by the crazy drummer.<br /><br />His smile doesn't help, though, because it reminds me of the sickening smile on the anti-abortion protester outside my kid's high school. (Downers Grove)J. Pabsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11566801024154623288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-58328300666378773722019-01-29T11:55:15.445-06:002019-01-29T11:55:15.445-06:00Is the only harm being done to the bigots and wing...Is the only harm being done to the bigots and wingnuts themselves? I feel they are hurting a lot of good people, sometimes physically, more often emotionally and psychologically. <br /><br />The opposition needs to get more pissed-off, or at least to tell these clowns to quit clowning and to STFU. Instead of being called-out, the haters just continue on their merry way, doing more and more damage to an already badly-damaged country. And the vast silent majority says nothing. Thirties Germany, anyone?<br /><br />I fail to understand why the left has been relatively quiescent these past few years. Someone named John Morley once said: "You have not converted a man becuse you have silenced him." That silence needs to end. <br /><br />Sure, the haters will continue to hate after a call-out, but they also need to be shown that theirs is the minority view. What I fear most is that those on the left...and the left-center...are silent because despair has triumphed over anger and outrage, and that they've mostly given up.Grizz 65https://www.blogger.com/profile/02892702223228764894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-10882881647904435742019-01-29T11:50:43.659-06:002019-01-29T11:50:43.659-06:00Agreed. I am no more perfect than the next man but...Agreed. I am no more perfect than the next man but not necessarily worse than either.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08613528527379198505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-6772894853259525302019-01-29T11:36:38.654-06:002019-01-29T11:36:38.654-06:00I grew up in the Cincinnati Archdioceses. I was il...I grew up in the Cincinnati Archdioceses. I was ill-prepared for the real world when I moved to Chicago at age 23. The greater Cincinnati area has always suffered from some isolation. (Linguists have long recognized that it has its own dialect and a unique vocabulary. Imagine my surprise when I learned that a mango was a tropical fruit -- not a green pepper!) I've often hoped that with the emergence of the internet and social media things would change -- more progressive ideas and attitudes would begin to prevail as they once did when the community was home to the Underground Railroad and a hotbed of the abolitionist movement. But I don't believe this is the case. Conservative institutions like the Catholic Church seem to have "circled the wagons" to protect their people from an influx of more progressive ideas. It’s not surprising that the boys from Covington Catholic behaved badly. What’s surprising is that their clergy and administrators set them up for this encounter which could have had even more tragic consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-36125116850740063052019-01-29T08:14:39.323-06:002019-01-29T08:14:39.323-06:00Speaking for myself, I agree with your last senten...Speaking for myself, I agree with your last sentence...grudgingly.<br /><br />johntatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088632798195131329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-11185105223738667902019-01-29T07:46:52.043-06:002019-01-29T07:46:52.043-06:00The lesson I took out of this is that any parent w...The lesson I took out of this is that any parent who lets their kid wear a MAGA hat is asking for trouble not just for themselves but for their kid as well. Given the hate directed toward Trump, it may be disappointing but not surprising that it spills over on those who support him and that's what the MAGA hat means to a lot of people.Zonkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17924587109596922187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3972382144120426476.post-23974703574904784302019-01-29T06:54:24.099-06:002019-01-29T06:54:24.099-06:00A good one. Thanks.A good one. Thanks.Lubin Bissonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09507966841823280671noreply@blogger.com