So CNN tapped on my cage Friday morning.
"I am reaching out on behalf of CNN's show, Newsroom with Kim Brunhuber, which will be simulcast across CNN International and CNN Domestic channels," a producer wrote. "Might you be willing and available to join Kim tomorrow morning (Saturday 30th August) during the 4am CDT (5am ET) hour?"
Four a.m. is kinda early. And I'd never heard of Kim Brunhuber. I think the last time I tuned into CNN was for the election in November. Otherwise, life is too short. But with the troops on their way to Chicago, the eyes of the world are fixing on Chicago. Shouldn't I wave back? Do I want to be part of the mix or not?
"This would be to discuss the Trump administration's preparation to conduct a major immigration enforcement operation in Chicago as soon as next week," she continued, "according to multiple sources familiar with the planning, marking the latest escalation between the president and a Democratic-led city."
I decided to play for time.
"At 4 a.m.?" I wrote back. "Can I be in my pajamas?"
She took me seriously.
"We understand how unsocial an hour it is for your Saturday, but would be incredibly grateful for your analysis on this," she said. "Of course, you can get straight back into bed as soon as the hit is finished."
Yeah, that is going to happen. Though the idea of my words going around the globe was appealing. Mr. International. I can't both scorn those cringing at the orange menace and then pass on a chance to speak out on a stage far larger than the modest midwestern potato patch where my words glisten like dew three days a week before vanishing. I decided to send it up the chain of command. Maybe they'd say "No" and solve the problem for me.
"I'm usually up anyway at that hour," I replied. "I've run it by my boss. After 38 years at the paper, I'm trying to last two more and not get myself fired. Sometimes they view TV as the locus of all meaning, sometimes as boosting a competitor. Let me get back to you as soon as I get the go-ahead."
CNN spooned on the honey.
"A relief to know that we have some chance here!" she wrote. "If it is any help, we really enjoy your blog, particularly your assessment of pogo sticks... "
That gave me pause. An obvious lie over a thumb-twiddly bit of nothing I'd tossed on my blog to fill a day. They were flattering me. There's a Lucy-and-the-football quality to these TV shows. I always think they are going to "lead to something" but they never do. Why bother? Alas, my boss was all for it.
I replied:
"I talked to my editor, and we're good to go. The pogo stick post was filler (I write every single day, without fail). If I seem reluctant, it's because my experiences with TV are almost invariably bad. (Here's a post more illustrative of that, you might enjoy). So let's go ahead and do it."
The link I sent was about going on the BBC last year to talk about "Hatless Jack," a book about how John F. Kennedy didn't kill off men's hats. Not that the BBC knew that, and no amount of my trying to tell them seemed to matter. They don't really care what you have to say; they're just filling time.
"I talked to my editor, and we're good to go. The pogo stick post was filler (I write every single day, without fail). If I seem reluctant, it's because my experiences with TV are almost invariably bad. (Here's a post more illustrative of that, you might enjoy). So let's go ahead and do it."
The link I sent was about going on the BBC last year to talk about "Hatless Jack," a book about how John F. Kennedy didn't kill off men's hats. Not that the BBC knew that, and no amount of my trying to tell them seemed to matter. They don't really care what you have to say; they're just filling time.
She didn't appear to look at it. Now that I was on the hook, time to consider the segment.
"Please send through any thoughts you might wish to share with the team on what the latest reaction is/ your own take," she wrote.
"My take?" I replied, "The tyranny playbook tells would-be dictators to start at the margins — thus immigrants, like trans folks, who are viewed with fear and suspicion by their base, can have their rights curtailed. The rest of us come next. Chicago had 3 million residents in 1950. Now we have 2.7 million. We welcome immigrants because a) it's good for the economy; b) it's good for the culture; c) it's the morally right thing to do. Trump has long used Chicago as a racist dog whistle — it's America's great Black metropolis — and wants to break the city the way he's trying to break prestigious universities and medical science, so there will be no one to oppose him when he scuppers elections. Roughly that."
That seemed clear and succinct, to me, but apparently did not give them a sense of what I had to say. Another producer chimed in with:
"Would you be able to send some bullet points/thoughts at some point today? Can be short - just to help Kim form his questions."
For what they no doubt pay Kim, I'd somehow manage to conjure up a few queries based on what I'd already sent. It's not like I'd sent some ball of mystery. By now it was 1:35 p.m. I answered this way:
"It's a broad topic, but something like:
"— Immigrants are and always have been vital to Chicago. Get out of downtown, and it's one ethnic enclave after another.
"— The city was completely correct to try to mitigate the human suffering caused by busloads of immigrants that Texas started sending here.
"— Chicago is completely within its rights to refuse to cooperate with masked ICE agents seizing residents from the streets without any kind of due process of law.
"— There is no need for the National Guard or the Army here — we can pick up our own garbage, thank you. Crime is at a historical low, and the military doesn't offer an actual solution anyway. Gov. Pritzker insists that this is all part of a Trump plan to use the military to squelch voting, something any decent, patriotic American must oppose.
"Please send through any thoughts you might wish to share with the team on what the latest reaction is/ your own take," she wrote.
"My take?" I replied, "The tyranny playbook tells would-be dictators to start at the margins — thus immigrants, like trans folks, who are viewed with fear and suspicion by their base, can have their rights curtailed. The rest of us come next. Chicago had 3 million residents in 1950. Now we have 2.7 million. We welcome immigrants because a) it's good for the economy; b) it's good for the culture; c) it's the morally right thing to do. Trump has long used Chicago as a racist dog whistle — it's America's great Black metropolis — and wants to break the city the way he's trying to break prestigious universities and medical science, so there will be no one to oppose him when he scuppers elections. Roughly that."
That seemed clear and succinct, to me, but apparently did not give them a sense of what I had to say. Another producer chimed in with:
"Would you be able to send some bullet points/thoughts at some point today? Can be short - just to help Kim form his questions."
For what they no doubt pay Kim, I'd somehow manage to conjure up a few queries based on what I'd already sent. It's not like I'd sent some ball of mystery. By now it was 1:35 p.m. I answered this way:
"It's a broad topic, but something like:
"— Immigrants are and always have been vital to Chicago. Get out of downtown, and it's one ethnic enclave after another.
"— The city was completely correct to try to mitigate the human suffering caused by busloads of immigrants that Texas started sending here.
"— Chicago is completely within its rights to refuse to cooperate with masked ICE agents seizing residents from the streets without any kind of due process of law.
"— There is no need for the National Guard or the Army here — we can pick up our own garbage, thank you. Crime is at a historical low, and the military doesn't offer an actual solution anyway. Gov. Pritzker insists that this is all part of a Trump plan to use the military to squelch voting, something any decent, patriotic American must oppose.
"How's that?"
Two hours passed, then they had a concern:
"Thanks Neil, one more question — just for clarification, are you saying illegal immigrants shouldn't face enforcement proceedings?"
That out-of-left-field question gave me pause — a chill, really — and reminded me of right wing hosts playing gotcha. Putting words in my mouth. I had read somewhere that CNN was drifting to the right, trying to peel viewers from Fox News.
"No, of course not," I replied. "I'm saying they shouldn't be snatched off the streets in extra-judicial kidnappings by masked thugs and shipped to prisons in Africa. Nor should they be demonized as violent criminals when most of them are not."
Two hours passed, then they had a concern:
"Thanks Neil, one more question — just for clarification, are you saying illegal immigrants shouldn't face enforcement proceedings?"
That out-of-left-field question gave me pause — a chill, really — and reminded me of right wing hosts playing gotcha. Putting words in my mouth. I had read somewhere that CNN was drifting to the right, trying to peel viewers from Fox News.
"No, of course not," I replied. "I'm saying they shouldn't be snatched off the streets in extra-judicial kidnappings by masked thugs and shipped to prisons in Africa. Nor should they be demonized as violent criminals when most of them are not."
Just the question got my back up.
"Is this too far outside CNN's new business model?" I continued. "We don't have to do this. You asked me. I don't want to be yelled at and have my words twisted."
At this point a third producer called, and we had a long, lovely chat, which set my mind at ease. Though a few minutes later, I got this:
"Unfortunately, due to the developing story on Missouri redistricting, our programming has been adjusted, and we are no longer doing the segment on Chicago immigration enforcement as earlier planned. Please stand down on this request for now."
"Stand down"? Military jargon. As if they were my superior officers. With an echo of Trump's wink to the Proud Boys: "Stand back and stand by."
"Is this too far outside CNN's new business model?" I continued. "We don't have to do this. You asked me. I don't want to be yelled at and have my words twisted."
At this point a third producer called, and we had a long, lovely chat, which set my mind at ease. Though a few minutes later, I got this:
"Unfortunately, due to the developing story on Missouri redistricting, our programming has been adjusted, and we are no longer doing the segment on Chicago immigration enforcement as earlier planned. Please stand down on this request for now."
"Stand down"? Military jargon. As if they were my superior officers. With an echo of Trump's wink to the Proud Boys: "Stand back and stand by."
I wondered whether I had talked myself out of a five to seven minutes of a global speaking gig, whether they had rejected me because of the clear-eyed Midwestern truths I was ready to utter.
Nah, a scheduling change sounds more likely. Either way, I have to admit, I was greatly relieved. Even happier when I woke up Saturday at the leisurely hour of 4:12 a.m. and realized I'd slept later than if I'd done the show.
Note to self: next time TV asks, just say no, right off the bat. It saves time and effort.
Don't watch CNN anymore, and haven't for a long time. Whoever wrote somewhere that CNN was drifting to the right, and was trying to compete with Faux Nooze, was on the money. They have been Fox Lite for years now. They used to have some worthwhile documentaries, but I can't imagine that they still do. Guess I will never know.
ReplyDeleteWould you have been as agreeable, Mister S, if Fox had called? They probably would have been less wishy-washy than CNN, but would probably have just wanted to put you on the air in order to yank your chain about Chicago, and make you look bad. So I imagine you would have told them to go to hell.
one of my pet peeves is media personalities interviewing media personalities. what a circle jerk providing little in the way of news.you might call it fake news.
ReplyDeleteid never heard of newsroom with Kim brunhuber either. nor will I be looking to tune in. though I might have you were on.
do you really believe crimes down ? ever watch the wire? what did twain say about statistics?
That's too funny. You do know "The Wire" is a TV show? Set in Baltimore? Crime IS down. You being afraid doesn't goose the numbers.
DeleteA developing story on Missouri redistricting. Seriously? They couldn't come up with anything better than that? Such bullshit. Reminds me of Colonel Jessup's powerful declaration in A Few Good Men... "You want answers? I want the truth! ... YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
ReplyDeleteI like how you told the truth. News shows can’t handle that.
ReplyDeleteGreat column…so enjoyable. When the producer asked you to provide the bullet points for the interview I thought….really!
ReplyDelete“Just say No” next time like Nancy Reagan!
Nancy never said no. Not before she was married and never afterward. She was a joke played on America because she was a starlet at one time.
DeleteHearing this, it sounds like CNN thought they were doing you a big favor by inviting you on their show. And it could have been worse! You could have prepared for the interview, been all set to go, then sat waiting on hold while CNN completed a program change they never told you about, only to tell you at the end of the hour that they were very sorry, but the prior segment ran over and they had no time to fit you in. Maybe next time?
ReplyDeleteI think you handled them well. You let them know that you weren't ripe for picking.
ReplyDeleteBravo... I'd love an EGGD podcast.
ReplyDeleteDodged a bullet there Mr. S. CNN lost its credibility for me when they provided a platform for political hacks Scott Jennings and Shermichael Singleton (and several others). Anderson Cooper is still there but he's not really enough. Please keep writing the brutal truth about the slide down the slippery slope to fascism (we're nearing the nadir). Daily I read you, Heather Cox Richardson, and Steve Schmidt.
ReplyDeleteKudos for not letting them diminish the true question, which is why are we creating laws that stop immigration instead of promoting it? Kudos for standing up for due process and asylum for those who had the courage to try to build a better life. The MAGA Republicans have dared good people like you to back off of constitutional rights, the Fascist playbook. Stay strong, you are not alone Neil.
ReplyDeleteThe news is no longer reported, it is only made.
ReplyDeleteNot a complete waste of time. You got a great column out of it.
ReplyDeleteI cut down on CNN a few years ago, and haven't watched it since the disaster in November. Although I would love to see you expand your base and provide encouragement to more Americans, you did the right thing. Your blog is essential reading to me during these unbelievably trying times. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteHow disappointing of CNN but it's good they reached out. If only MSNBC would call.
ReplyDeleteSuch lazy producers! They wanted you on, it was up to THEM to glean your take from your columns/posts. Having you do their homework for them is bullshit. Next time, if you don't just decline immediately and they ask you for bullet points or a summary of your take, you should just say "I really don't have time to do that, but my takes are online if you're interested."
ReplyDeleteYour "take" was excellent and succinct. Pretty amusing that they wanted bullet points after that which of course were also right on point. Plus they liked your pogo stick column? How lazy can they get? Fun column.
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