Thursday, September 26, 2024

Pro-immigrant readers see what's in front of their eyes


Mason Sergio Mejia shows up at short notice and saved us last year during the great mothball debacle

     Monday's column, "Show me where the immigrants hurt you" rang a lot of bells. The floodgates opened. On Wednesday, I printed a few few of the anti-immigrant replies, mostly Fox News lies chewed a few times and spat back by their well-trained viewers.
     But lots and lots of pro-immigrant comments came in as well, and as Friday's column can only run 750 words, I thought I would jump the gun and run a few today as well.
     You know how I like a good historical argument, and Alan Rhine, of Glenview, offered this:
     In your Monday column you reference a letter that you received that asked what the founding fathers would have thought about the immigration trends from the past 30 years? This reader should consult the Declaration of Independence to see what was stated by the founders who signed this document. In discussing the repeated injuries and usurpations of the King of Great Britain, one of the points made was that:
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
     The same Declaration of Independence did not speak favorable about the native Americans, who were the indigenous people that were already here. Another complaint against King George was:
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

     Immigration reform is not a new issue. To me it appears that if the founders had responded to your assignment, they would have been more concerned about harm from the indigenous people than from immigrants. 
   P.S. Alexander Hamilton was not born in the 13 colonies. If he had not immigrated from the Caribbean Island of Nevis, we would not have the play about his life.

      Unlike the nebulous imagined generalities of the antis-, supporters of immigrations have almost universally actually met immigrants. Bill O'Connor of Lake Geneva writes:

     Thank you for this opportunity. The youngest of our three was a sophomore in high school, and I knew from experience he would be around less often. I attended classes, learning to teach English as a second language.
     My first volunteer assignment was on the southwest side of Chicago. Spanish speakers, male and female, working jobs all day and arriving for tutoring on time and enthusiastic. Aquilo, a fortyish male student wanted to learn English so he could communicate better with his teenage children as well as his co workers. After about a year, I gave him a final assignment. Write a presentation on any subject and present it to me the following week. The following week he appeared all smiles and with a single construction bolt about ten inches long. His company makes these and he explained the process thoroughly. His closing statement with a huge smile, “ and these are the bolts that anchor the new street lights on 294”.
     I retired and moved to Southeast Wisconsin. A new setting but the same enthusiastic, prompt students. Elana is a single mother of two sons and was working fifty hours a week at her factory job, 6 am to 4:30. She showed up every session at 4:45, willing to work. On one occasion she was troubled. She had heard of another mass shooting at a school and feared for her sons. I suggested we compose a letter with her concerns and send it to a politician. Several weeks later, she walked into our session beaming.In her hand was a letter from Senator Tammy Baldwin, sympathizing with her and outlining her gun control efforts.
     I do not know if these people and many others I tutored, are legal and I do not care. They are doing the same thing my ancestors did, working hard and trying to improve. These are two, there are thousands and thousands just like them.
     A frequent theme is the hard-working nature of immigrants.
     This is Mike Shawgo from Second Pres. My experiences with immigrants have all been from them stopping by at the church. The first time, a group of about six guys showed up on a Saturday, when the church is open for tours. One of the tour docents came to get me to see if I could help them. The church has various supplies that we use for our lunch bag program, which wasn't open at the time. They were trying to talk to me, but my Spanish is limited. Then one of them got their phone with the Google Translate app. They were asking if we had any food. I brought out some sandwiches from lunch bag refrigerator, and also retrieved a bunch of plastic shoe boxes that had toiletry articles, wheeled them out on a cart and set them out on a table so they could take anything they needed. They picked out just a few things, then a couple of the guys started putting the lids back on the boxes, stacked them up and put them back on the cart, which I thought was nice. Then as they were leaving, saying "gracias" over and over, one of them offered to help me get the Google Translate app on my phone, which he did.
     Another time, again on a Saturday, an immigrant showed up at the church. I was there because I had volunteered to help re-set and screw down pews in the balcony that had been moved for scaffolding. This guy was sitting in a pew, and as I walked over he got out his phone with Google Translate and said he just came in to pray. I tried to speak with him a bit, and he said he had just recently arrived, and was looking for work. That gave me an idea, and I checked with the other volunteers who were working on the pews and asked what they thought about asking him to help with screwing down pews. I said I would pay him something. They said that would be great, so using my translate app, I asked if he would like to work on a project here at the church, and I said I would show him what it was. He was very enthusiastic after I showed him what we were doing, and he started screwing down pews with a passion (this was just using a regular screwdriver). He was really going to town, so one of the other guys and myself just quit working on it. One other guy had a power screwdriver, and after a while the immigrant went to him asking for the power screwdriver, which he gave him, then that guy also sat back and let him do the work.
     A group of ladies were having a meeting in the church hall and had ordered pizza for lunch. After their lunch, they had leftover pizza and came in to the sanctuary and asked us if we wanted leftover pizza. I told the immigrant we were breaking for lunch, and to come back to the church hall. Luckily one of the ladies could speak Spanish, and she described the pizzas. He said at the table with us, and was telling us (with the app) about his wife and daughter, and how he was trying to make enough money to bring them to the US. When we tried to get him to eat more pizza, he said no thanks, he was getting to fat (gordo). Then he went back to work. Meanwhile, I went to an ATM and took out $100 to pay him. When he was finished, I asked him how much pay he wanted for his work. He didn't want to take any money, and said, I think, something about that he had done the work out of the goodness of his heart (I recognized "mi corazon", and he put his hand on his chest). I said no, he did the work so he had to be paid. I gave him the $100 but it was folded up bills so he didn't know right away how much it was. But he immediately crossed himself, put his hands on his chest and looked up "to heaven." We never saw him again after that.

     There is no limit online, but I realize I can't go on forever —  I have dozens of these. One more and we'll wait til Friday. Paula Hyman, whose 3rd grade CPS classroom I visited in 2006, writes:

     I was in charge of helping my brother-in-law clean and declutter his condo. I hired a decluttering company, and she brought along three Venezuelan immigrants to help, one man and two women. Neil, I have never seen cleaning people work so hard! They spoke little English, so we used our phones to translate. They happily got right to work cleaning, scrubbing, mopping, and organizing everything in the condo. Although they worked fast, it took two all day sessions for them to finish. The condo has not been that clean since he moved in twenty-five years ago. Everything was shining, immaculate and looked like new. These people were not afraid of hard work. You could tell they had pride in their job and were grateful to make some money. It took two days, but my brother-in-law’s place place took on a whole new life. (I won’t give you details on how disgustedly filthy and cluttered it was.) I am going to hire them to do jobs at my house where I can use some help 
     Each of the immigrants had spouses that worked and kids in school. The kids all loved school here in Chicago, which was good to hear. They were each living in a decent apartment in the nicer part of East Rogers Park. I have been telling everybody that I encounter about my positive experience with these “lazy, criminal migrants.” Although I do not speak Spanish, their enthusiasm for the USA was palpable. They were so grateful to be safe in the United States. I really enjoyed working with them and gave them each a grateful hug when we parted. I plan on staying in touch and I am hoping to help them in some way.

     That'll do for today. Thanks everyone for writing in. It's a relief to remember that there are still good, decent people here, people who are able to see what's in front of them, instead of surrendering to fear and fantasy. 



22 comments:

  1. Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    “Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
    With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

    The New Colossus, by Emma Lazarus

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    1. Thanks for reminding us of that touching poem.

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  2. I wanted to respond after reading yesterday's EGD, but I couldn't get beyond my depressed, slack-jawed "Wow, just wow" feeling regarding the anti-s' sadly unsurprising regurgitation of shallow, broad brushstrokes that over-generalize, racially/ethnically profile, and dehumanize immigrants. And the irony in some of the spewing ... unless any one of the anti- commenters was 100% Native American, they all are of immigrant ancestry.
    Thank you for today's first installment of the personal, thoughtful, informed, kind, and curious accounts of interactions with immigrants. Like Bill O'Connor, I worked for a couple of years with immigrants in DuPage county wishing to learn or improve their English-speaking skills - so they could better interact with their kids' teachers, neighbors, bosses and co-workers. It was an honor to get to know them and to help them. It's how we who do not live in fear of those not exactly like us think of and act toward other humans who cross our paths.

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  3. My daughter wisely married the son of immigrants, giving me two smart, kind, and beautiful grandchildren (not to mention a stellar son-in-law).

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  4. Geez, Neil, you got me tearing up. Such a wonderful column.

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  5. I love all of this. Don't lose hope. I love you, as well.

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  6. Bill O'connor writes: I dont know if these people were legal or not and I dont care. Well he should care , all of us should. we should hold our representatives accountable for their continued inability to repair the broken immigration system now in place.

    Until they do we should respect the laws currently in place and expect citizens from other countries to understand they are subject to our laws when they arrive. When we all choose which laws to obey and let or encourage others who come here to ignore our laws, we have chaos.

    I support a path to citizenship for those already here and a more robust processing system for those who would like to come. We need an influx of people as you pointed out in your original column comparing the US to Japan . I think we should welcome immigrants but demand an orderly system be established and followed to integrate people into our society. the current circumstance is unacceptable . People should not simply be pouring in across the boarder without application and processing.

    A Marshall plan if you will for immigration. it will be expensive but we and they will benefit from a structured circumstance.

    Corporate America does not want this. they profit on the chaos.

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    1. Steve: I believe that Bill O"Connor's statement that he didn't care whether the people he helped were "legal" or not did not mean that he had no concern whether or not U.S. laws were being violated, but that he was going to treat these people as human beings from the get-go rather than requiring that each immigrant prove worthy based on his or her immigration status. Likewise with the other writers: each made it clear that they welcomed the immigrants they encountered and the immigrants reciprocated with eagerness and diligence. Had they been faced with hostility or indifference, they very likely would have reacted accordingly.

      I don't know whether "corporate America" values immigrants more as cheap labor than as human beings; but I would guess that its attitude runs the gamut from Simon Legree to Mother Teresa, just like those displayed here.

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    2. John, I too believe these people should be treated as human beings

      But my point my overarching point is that we don't. We take advantage of them in so many ways we as individuals do this. When we always look at price We often choose somebody who is not in a position to charge full price an immigrant.

      Corporations certainly guilty of this

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  7. There is really nothing more to say about this. An inability to see the value of immigrants worldwide is a stronger statement of human nature than any other I could list.

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  8. One thing I've noticed over the last 25 years, all the construction on single family homes & small apartment buildings in Chicago is done with immigrants from Mexico & Central America. What's happened is the out of control building trades unions here have saddled Chicago with a hopelessly out of date building code that won't allow for plastic plumbing pipe, plastic wiring without conduit & won't allow for pre-assembled buildings trucked to the site & craned into place. So the costs are so high, the small builders have resorted to hiring non-union immigrants to keep the costs down!
    Just shows how really stupid unions manage to screw things up for their own members!
    Are you listening CTU?

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    1. Again with the CTU? You really have a serious jones about the teachers' union, Clark, and you will rant and rail about it at the drop of a ruler,. And yet, you've never really explained why. Are you a former teacher? Did they not go to bat for you when you got screwed over by the system? Were you fired and not rehired? Tell us your story about why you hate them so much. Then...maybe... I will understand.

      As for my own stories about immigrants, I can't think of any interesting ones. Maybe by tomorrow. My wife works for a Cleveland outfit that tutors people who want to pass the state GED tests, and get that piece of paper. There are the dropouts, of course, but many of the students she deals with are immigrants, mostly Hispanics. I'm sure she has had some uplifting experiences. I will ask her. Tune in tomorrow.

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    2. Never worked for it, but that union & it's leadership are insane extreme leftist lunatics that want to run the city, not the alderman, but them. They want insane pay raises, they don't pay much for their pensions, they should be paying 9% of their pay with the board putting 9% also into the pension fund, but in fact they pay only 2% & the board kicks in 16%!
      I hate them because they raise my taxes due to their idiotic demand, such as getting a state law passed preventing the closing of under used schools, some of which have under 5% of their capacity in student!
      The union sent a delegation to Venezuela a few years ago & came back with a report that was glowing with praise & called the place a paradise! Which is why millions of Venezuelans have left their country because the paradise is a total fraud!

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    3. You lost me at "insane extreme leftist lunatics"...I have been pro-union all my life. I could tell you tales about the Newspaper Guild (whose very first local, Local 1 in Cleveland, doesn't even exist anymore), and how they did not protect me from a paranoid and unhinged boss (who, it later turned out, had a brain tumor and died of it, at 43) .

      The Guild did not save my job when the Daily News died. Nor did they protect me from the consequences of her falsehoods, which both sabotaged my future and eventually led to my dismissal. I was still a newbie in the eyes of the union, even after two years, so I was expendable.

      All that was decades ago, and I had to get over it, and soldier on. Besides, nobody really cares. Do I still support unions? Damn betcha I do. But thanks for sharing.

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  9. I'd like to add to the list: the caring and attentive health care staff at my VA clinic and at the North Chicago VA hospital- nurses from Uganda, Philippines, and the Haitian nurse who gave me a spontaneous comment on the glories of America that would make a MAGA rally blush - my India born Moslem physician who spent 40 minutes talking to me an reassuring me that my octogenarian tendency to wake up at 2:00 a.m. agonizing about every stupid, thoughtless and cruel thing I had done in my life was something he too experienced. And finally, the only grandmother I knew, Emma, born in Prussia in 1870, whose father never let his family speak German or talk about it - leading me to encourage every immigrant I meet to share their story if they wished.

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  10. I don't normally use caps; it's a dumb way to speak loudly.

    But this column?

    THANK YOU

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  11. With regard to the polarization in America that is so problematic, one can pretty easily figure out which "side" somebody's on by which of these concepts they find compelling.

    On one hand, you have the quest for the American dream in a sentence, as noted in the first comment, above:

    “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

    On the other, you have the demeaning of the other, the trademark of fascists throughout history, that gave the Biggest Loser the jumpstart with his minions that he was looking for in 2015, which he's only amplified and doubled-down on ever since:

    "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. ... They’re sending us not the right people."

    From a Catherine Rampell column in the Washington Post:

    "Vance has likewise baselessly accused Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, of not only butchering and eating people’s pets, but also of killing people. 'Murders are up by 81 percent because of what Kamala Harris has allowed to happen in this small community,' Vance said on CNN.

    The Clark County, Ohio, district attorney, a Republican, unequivocally refuted Vance’s claim, noting that local murder rates were higher under Trump. What’s more, across his 21 years in the prosecutor’s office, Daniel Driscoll said, 'we have not had any murders involving the Haitian community — as either the victims or as the perpetrators of those murders.'"

    Another example supporting the adage that the truth has a liberal bias, alas.

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    1. That last sentence, Jakash, explains a lot.

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  12. We have had the pleasure of hosting a family from Venezuela since this past January. They are respectful, kind, and hard-working people. We truly enjoy hosting them.

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  13. Bartholomew Jacob AquinoSeptember 27, 2024 at 8:23 PM


    Hello, my name is Bartholomew Jacob Aquino, I am the husband of Agatha and the son of a criminal immigrant.

    My father, who is Filipino, came to this country from the Philippines.

    I can surely say that my father was and is not a good man. He was charged with involuntary manslaughter for strangling a man in a bar fight in the early 1980s.

    He also raped a 16-year-old black girl, and he was incredibly abusive towards my mother (who just so happens to be white), nearly strangling her to death in a domestic dispute as well. When I was 6 months old, he dislocated my left shoulder after holding me in one arm and beating my mother with the other. I shrieked out.

    To state that immigrants cannot be criminal nor dangerous is a flagrant lie.
    In fact, my father is a habitual domestic violence perpetrator to this very day.

    I am on Facebook under the name I supplied you with if you desire to further substantiate my claims.

    Have a pleasant evening, Mr. Steinberg!

    Sincerely,
    Bartholomew Jacob Aquino

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    1. I’m sorry to hear of your personal story, your father does indeed sound like a bad, dangerous and perhaps unwell man. But I don’t believe that anyone here (and certainly not the proprietor, Mr. Steinberg) is insinuating that no immigrants are criminals and all are good. That simply isn’t true of any ethnic group or nationality, be it Jews, Muslims, Asians, Western Europeans, Latinos, Americans, etc. The argument that qualifies any point of view with “all, always, everyone, none, etc.” is invariably flawed. The point is that immigrants GENERALLY contribute much more to society positively than harm or damage it. The Fox Newsies of the world present immigrants much more often as a criminal element and burden to society - they rarely illustrate the positive contributions of immigrants. That’s because they want to invoke fear, because fear inspires hate and that drives clicks and eyeballs (and dollars). Immigration is a net positive by a large margin to America, but certainly is not perfect. But we live in a gray world and too many people want to invoke black and white rule for all instances. That’s a guarantee of failure.

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