Friday, August 25, 2023

Driverless cars racing toward us


A Waymo driverless taxi on the street in Phoenix last week.

   At the Clark gas station in Berea, Ohio, the attendant, Jack, would check the oil in our Ford station wagon, squeegee the windows, pump the gas, then thank my mother for stopping by while handing each of us kids in the back seat a stick of gum.
     As nice as that was, turns out that customers like my mother would happily fire Jack to save 5 cents a gallon. Not that we were ever asked. He just vanished. Too bad; I kinda liked Jack.
     Then again, I liked telephone operators, department store clerks — my grandmother was one, at the May Co. — elevator operators and bank tellers. That last group lingers past their sell-by date — my bank typically has one teller on duty, and I will stride past open ATMs to wait in line for the brief pleasant human interaction, trying to forestall the unavoidable day when I walk over to the window and it’ll be shuttered.
     People are expensive, and getting the heave-ho everywhere possible. When I went through the huge Amazon fulfillment center in Monee, my heart didn’t break for the human workers, eyes locked on video screens, arms flying like demented octopi to grab items from seven-foot-tall revolving robot pods to toss into passing cardboard boxes. Rather, I nodded grimly, watched the clockwork efficiency of those pods, and wondered whether the humans would be utterly gone from Amazon warehouses in 10 years — or five.
     Or, about the same time an A.I. program will spit out newspaper columns finely calibrated to the ideal comfort/outrage ratio to keep readers coming back — or would, if anyone wanted such a thing, if they weren’t all staring transfixed at an endless algorithm loop of car crashes, seductive dances and clips from “The Sopranos.”
     Until then, each new step into our brave new world feels significant. It was last Friday, visiting my son in Phoenix that, at 7th and Van Buren, I noticed a passing white car, drawn by the round apparatus on its roof topped with some kind of spinning device. I looked inside, and was not surprised by what I saw — or, rather, didn’t see: no driver.
     “That’s so weird!” I said.

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25 comments:

  1. I was reading that in San Francisco. people who hate the self driving cars, which are really screwing up traffic there just put an orange traffic cone on the hood & that so confuses the computer that runs the car, it just stops & sits there.
    Last week, due to excessive cellphone traffic, a dozen of those self driving cars just stopped in the streets, unable to go anywhere.
    It appears that it's the little things that confuse them, but they also have hit a fire truck in SF & a couple of people, too.
    The facts are, they just aren't ready for normal useage, yet.

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    1. All day everyday we drive into each other and things. A lot of people are not very good drivers and many aren't paying attention. Then there are the aggressive drivers that dont obey traffic laws. Im sorry I won't live long enough to see the end of human drivers. Im tired of driving an hour to and from work every day.

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    2. I saw those cars last year as well. Except, there was a human in it with their arms held apart hovering from the seven and five of the wheel....they've gotten better, evidently.

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    3. Thanks, Wilbur, you took the words right out of my mouth. Also, replying to anonymous (is that you, Clark Street?) with regard to people who try to sabotage the operation of driverless cars and are delighted at street accidents with the delusion that they're fighting the machine -- there are human beings involved at every level (except driver) in the process, as passengers, designers, and motorists of non selfdriving cars. Also, I wonder how driverless cars make the traffic worse in San Francisco. Is it when a traffic signal is set to allow let's say 5 cars to turn at an intersection where usually 7 or 8 sneak through and the computer driving the 5th car decides not to risk the turn and impedes all the maniacs behind it? Is it those driverless cars who refuse to run a red light and thus make the cars behind them have to wait another 40 seconds to cross? Or is it that drivers slow down to take a gander at the no hands, no driver car?

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    4. Yes it's me, I don't know why when I click on "Google Account", it still often comes up "Anonymous"

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  2. So with all these occupations and jobs vanishing, how will people earn money in the future?

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    1. A question I'm sure that was asked with the invention of the cotton gin automobiles and trains. What will all the blacksmiths do? How will we make money in the future if we can't have a stable?
      Times change and people's jobs change. There's been millions of people sitting at desks for the last few decades and undoubtedly people will sit at desks.
      I liked Andrew Yang's theory. Remember him just send people money.
      Then we can be like the reeks and wrecks in Kurt vonnegut's Cats cradle.

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    2. Repairing driverless cars.

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  3. Neil, Driverless taxis are just the latest version of Jack and The Bean Stalk Silicon valley pyramid schemes. Ten years in Lyft and Uber barely make money. While they must share the fare with the driver, they don't have the capital cost of paying for the autos. This is the dirty inside secret of their pie in the sky business plans.It is not about the software it is simply modern day share-cropping with the mule swapped for the car. The AI driven Taxis will have lower labor cost but the companies will have to pay for those Jaguars themselves and with the cost of money going up that will not be an easy lift. At this point the handful of AI driven cabs are being paid for by new investors dreams of riches. As the market evolves the brutal truth will become apparent; fleets of autos purchased or leased will blow a hole in the income statement of these Bro business plans. This business is more likely to be the next WeWork than it is to be a Blue chip.

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  4. Hear hear. I refuse to use the kiosk at the post office. I wait in line to see a clerk.

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  5. I'd say "racing toward us" as the headline puts it is a bit overstated. My first thought upon seeing those cars puttering around the streets was that holding up passengers will be a breeze. One member of your crew simply stands in front of the car and it stops. Your buddies then smash the windows and relieve the passengers of their belongings.

    My second thought, a little less dark, is that since the car isn't going to exceed the posted speed limit (it doesn't need to read the signs; matching its GPS location to its stored road data will tell it the limit in that location), it's going to back up everyone behind it until they can pass.

    No, people do not observe the speed limit, averaging 5-10 MPH above it on good days by my informal experience, and majority vote on the gas pedal does not make it right, but matching the prevailing speed of traffic is what makes for a smoother, less chaotic drive, and we all know (even if we won't admit it) that we drive as fast as we're comfortable with for our present surroundings, not just what the official limit states.

    Having to pass a pokey-butt is always irritating, and these things are going to quickly become a time-wasting annoyance to those of us still capable of driving manually, especially in foul weather or unusual traffic where a driverless car will quickly become baffled.

    I'm sure driverless cars will become more mainstream, yes, but will be regarded as little clots in the arteries of America for some time to come.

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    1. Grrrr! Im the guy that drives 4 over. I got a couple speed camera tickets. enough already. I stay to the right and the lead foots pass in the parking lane! Or on the shoulder. I may be irritating but the aggressive drivers are dangerous. Is it my fault ive been rear ended half a dozen times in 40 years but never, NEVER! have struck another vehicle? Slow the fuck down. Maintain a decent interval. stay in your lane. Leave for your appointment earlier. If everyone wasn't trying to get in front of the guy ahead of them driving wouldn't be so aggravating and dangerous.

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    2. Most everyone in Chicago drives like they are racing to put out a fire.

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    3. I am with you except I probably go 6 or 7 mph over.

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  6. How well do these driverless cars work in a snow storm or heavy rain? I don't much but wouldn't that mess up the lidar?

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  7. Just a hunch but I don't think we are ready for driverless cars yet. It just seems wrong, something a science fiction author wrote about with no thought of the complications. It might decrease traffic deaths but drive more suicides. And where will the road ragers direct their anger when the robot car ignores the shaking fist and finger? There will be a time and place for them but probably not now and definitely not this country.

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    1. Well, you might not think we're ready for them, but they're already here in this country. Who knows if they'll reduce traffic accidents I suppose that's possible. But why would there be more suicides? Because somehow they're going to make traffic even more frustrating than it already is.? How is that possible?
      A few years ago people were saying there wouldn't be electric cars. Oh they're everywhere but it's not only electric cars and it won't only be driverless cars but things are going to change whether we want them to or not for better or for worse mostly to profit the wealthy just like it's always been

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    2. The type of engine in a vehicle doesn't matter. What is at stake here is giving the machine more control of the man. I am just speculating about how that might affect us. When I see a Tesla behind me the only difference from a Ford in my mind is one half-nutbag is dead and the other is still living. If I see that Waymo with the radar apparatus on its' roof I might be not trust the machine over a man, no matter the statistics. While I am in more danger on the Edens from a guy doing the Crossword while he shaves, he's still more adaptable than a machine. Maybe I've just seen 2001 too many times.

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    3. JP you miss my point. Basically what I'm saying is it doesn't matter what you or I think things are going to change in ways that we would prefer they didn't. Also, you're driving habits sound pretty suspect. And I guess you're just not in the mood to address that at all. I would prefer a robot driving behind me instead of you. I think I'd be safer

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    4. Anonymous, where did you get any idea about my driving habits? You have an active imagination or you are a bot conflating me with my desciptions of other drivers.

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  8. A couple days ago, I brought my newish car to Toyota for an airbag recall. While waiting for my paperwork to be processed, I overheard the customer in front of me asking the counterman about some noises his car made after he shut it off. The answer was that the car periodically checks itself out to the extent that it could have been parked for several hours in the garage and still make those peculiar sounds displaying its autonomy. No need apparently to look at the oil dipstick or check the tire pressure or the level of anti-freeze or wiper fluid -- the car is taking care of itself and will let you know if it needs anything, which in my case would probably be a thorough rinse and wash. I wouldn't mind at all if it decided to drive itself too.

    john

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  9. Maybe they’ll get it right, just about when my kids take away my keys.

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  10. Top marks for this column; you make it look so easy. Sentinel, original, and went places I didn't expect.

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  11. Unlike my early-adapter father, who eagerly embraced LPs, TV, stereo sound, tape recorders, computers, and VCRs, I'm a die-hard technophobe when it comes to new technology...a total Luser (Luddite + loser).

    I didn't have acess to a smartphone until recently. I still don't carry it everywhere. I resisted Facebook until the Plague (and lifetime bans from other platforms) forced me into it. I still have shelves of videotapes. The toaster I use daily is a 70-year-old Sunbeam.

    All of which means that I won't be riding in any driverless cars anytime soon. Unless it's when I take that ride to the nursing home...or to the crematorium. By the time driverless cars become commonplace...maybe in another 15-20 years...I will already be forgotten dust--sprinkled in a location to be named later.

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  12. Reminds me of a scary Twilight Zone rerun ep I saw as a kid. ;)

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