Monday, May 5, 2025

Mark Zuckerburg wants to sell you new AI friends


     Jim and I rode our bikes over to Wallace Lake to check out a lifeguard, Laura. I can still see her, 16 years old, in her white bathing suit, gazing over the splashing crowd.
     That sounds creepier than it actually was since, at the time, almost half a century ago, Jim and I were also teenagers. Jim and Laura have been married for 42 years and have two daughters and five grandchildren.
     Kier and I drove to New York City once. We had dinner at Thai Hut on Devon Avenue, then 12 hours straight east, hitting Manhattan at dawn, just as Little Feat sang, "Don't the sunlight look so pretty, never saw a sight, like rolling into New York City, with the skyline in the morning light."
Me, Cate and Robert, 1983
   And Cate, well, where do I begin? She wanted to be one of my groomsmen, but my wife-to-be put her foot down. I did throw Cate a bachelor party when she got married, with our mutual friend Robert, that involved securing a banquet room at the Como Inn, writing a script and hiring actors. Which was only fair, because Rob and Cate did the same for my bachelor party, at the old Get Me High Lounge in Wicker Park.
     Oh wait, that's four friends. I've gone over my limit, according to Meta founder Mark Zuckerberg, who imagines the average American "has fewer than three friends" — where did he come up with that figure? — and could use AI buddies to hang around with. Which he will be happy to sell us.
     The idea being that we're going to pour out our hearts to our AI soulmates and they will — what? Reassure us? Suggest comfort food to buy on Amazon?
     Is that what friends do? Sometimes they're just there. I've been working on not trying to fix friends' problems. Just listen, nod or say, "That's terrible." Will that be any use coming from a silicon chip? Won't it be like writing "there there" on an index card and referring to it when you're blue?
     There are levels of friendship. Outlined above are the best kind: old friends. There are also new friends, work friends, friendly neighbors, Facebook friends, friends-with-benefits, fair weather friends. Friends who are always there when they need you.
     Those friends tend to be situational and transactional, to quote my friend Lynn Sweet's useful description of Barack Obama's approach to relationships. They can be quite real when we're all in the same lifeboat, furiously bailing. Then quickly fade back on dry land.
     Friends ideally are around your level on the struggle up the greased pole of life. I've had good friends who, inflated with success, float off, as if cash were helium. Loyal myself, I cargo cult them, staring at the patch of blue they vanished into. Sometimes for quite a long while. Years. But eventually I sigh, turn away, resigned they're never coming back. And they never do.
     Some friends are like comets — gone for quite some time, then suddenly back, illuminating the night sky again. My former college roommate Didier worked with Catholic Relief and never calls.
Me, Cate and Rob, 2024
     We would have the best conversations — when I phone. I used to say, it's because if he called me, he'd have to take the rag soaked in sugar water off the lips of whatever emaciated child he's succoring. If he ever phoned, a child would die.
     I feared he just didn't want to talk with me. But when my older boy needed to spend the summer at an internship in Washington, D.C., where Di lives, I called him to ask about the various sketchy neighborhoods my kid was considering. Is this safe? Is that?
     He kept saying, "I have a spare bedroom. He can stay with me." The third time he said that, I responded: If you make that offer again, I'll take you up on it, and you'll be sorry. He did. I did, and both parties seemed to enjoy a fun summer together.
     You go out of your way for your friends. Friendship is not, Zuckerberg take note, a moneymaking scheme. And they do the same for you.
     I only lived in Los Angeles for three months, but Jim and Laura, freshly married, came to visit. One night Laura stayed in, and I took Jim in my 1963 Volvo P1800 to go clubbing. At one point he said: "Neil — you're a writer in Los Angeles. You've got this sports car. I'm still in Berea, working for my dad. Why are we friends?"
     We were at a stoplight on Sunset Boulevard. I turned and looked closely at Jim, then gave an answer that stuck with me:
     "Because most people are assholes, and you're not."


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34 comments:

  1. What a lovely post. I'm an introvert so making friends is difficult. I cherish them all the more. Zuckerberg is a sad human.

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  2. Rogers Park to Manhattan is approximately 800 miles, Mr. S, so you had to AVERAGE better than 65 MPH, for 12 hours. Factoring in the inevitable pit stops along the way, for fuel and food and whiz breaks, that is no little feat. You must have had lead feet, instead,, and you must have driven like bats out of hell. And not encountered any truck convoys or wrecks or orange construction barrels. And all the cops had to have been asleep. Wow.

    Will AI chatbots really become an antidote for loneliness? Seriously? Replacing friends and shrinks and even romantic partners with AI bots sounds dangerous, even sick. And Zuck is one sick puppy. Can't stand the sight of him. In a T-shirt, he reminds me of a Ken doll.

    Pouring out one's heart and one's troubles to a bot would not enhance one's interactions with flesh-and-blood human beings. And unless you are a recluse or a hermit, such interactions are inevitable. Streisand was right. People do need people. Otherwise, they can become the shmuckiest people in the world.

    Zuck is mainly obligated to his shareholders, so a future filled with the sale of avatars, rather than Real Life friends and lovers, is good for his bottom line--and maybe not much else. But whether that's a future that people are willing to accept is another story entirely.

    Bots can't help you move, or hide a body at 3 AM. And when you're...um...lonely...at 3 AM...bots can't kiss you back. At least, not in a style that will make you smile, or really make it worth your while.

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    1. Remember, Grizz, the speed limit was 80 (or was it 85?) and virtually everyone drive some number faster than that...Yes, lead foot all around, and much of that speed was legal

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    2. The 55 mph national speed limit was in effect from 1974 to 1987.

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    3. One hour time change heading east as well...

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    4. Nope. Not on the Skyway, the IN Toll Road, the Ohio Turnpike, or any of the interstates in PA and NJ. Top end in the Midwest and the East, legally, has never been higher than 70 mph. And they did this road trip in what timeframe? The Eighties? As Jack said, the Federal speed limit was 55 mph then. It was in effect from the mid-70s until the late 80s..

      So blowing east at 80 or 85 would definitely get you busted by a Smokey, CB radio slang for a state trooper (as in Smokey the Bear, known for wearing a campaign hat very similar to that included in many highway patrol uniforms).

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    5. It's an approximation more than 40 years after the fact. We left sometime after supper — say 7 p.m. — and got there around dawn — say 7 a.m. Don't go through too many gyrations with a stopwatch. It's beside the point. Maybe we ate early and left at 6. Maybe we got there at 8. I don't recall.

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    6. Yeah, 14 hours sounds right. Six hours to Cleveland, and eight more to NYC,

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  3. An article in yesterday's Atlantic was about how some of its writers and editors stay in touch with friends. There's no denying that it's work, and that some people do the majority of that work. But the payoffs are great.

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  4. Your post made me want to cry, maybe because I am 86 years old.

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  5. Lovely, thank you. Zuck is a bad guy.

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  6. Zuckerberg wants wants to sell you an AI friend so he can mine, leverage, and sell the data generated by your odd relationship.

    A recent article in der Spiegel about a teenager who fell in love with a creature created by Character.AI is the most disturbing thing I have ever read. Character.AI is a mobile app sold by Google. The teenager was actively encouraged by the character into isolation and co-dependency. Young people are already being groomed and coopted by this AI universe. The young man killed himself to be together with his imaginary Google friend forever.

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/artificial-intelligence-a-deadly-love-affair-with-a-chatbot-a-e5498031-c2b0-4da4-9192-65da9d3f40d6

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  7. I have 7 friends from college (one of those is also from high school-)we used to get together at xmas and once in the summer, but once we were all retired, we started to meet for lunch once a month and we rotate who is the hostess who cooks the entree and the rest sign up for salad or desert. Best thing I have at the age of 80.

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    1. That's a wonderful addition to these comments. There are many, many folks a lot younger than 80 who don't have such a nice thing in their lives. : )

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  8. I'm truly baffled as to why anyone would ever listen to the world's richest loser about anything?
    Zuckerberg is a pathetic schande, who is an embarrassment to humanity!

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  9. From Fahrenheit 451: "Millie? Does the White Clown love you?"

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  10. This is one of Neil’s best. So many perfect sentences like…” . I've had good friends who, inflated with success, float off, as if cash were helium.” I laughed out loud at the closing line. Just wonderful work!

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  11. As far as the "12 hours" brouhaha, wow, that's like complaining that Byron rhymed Don Juan with "new one" and "true one." Kind of a minor distraction.
    And as someone who drives the same route as Mr. Steinberg at least three times a year, yes, it can be done in twelve hours- if you're traveling with men only- but it is much less relaxing. When I go eight over the limit, and talk to people at the service plazas, the trip is a pleasure.

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    1. Drove to Miami and back in 50 hours a couple times
      with a man .the bathroom breaks were in frequent. Had a cooler full of food and only stopped for gas
      Had a 73 Cadillac with back seat big enough to sleep fully stretched out

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    2. Did it in about 33 hours back in '72, in my girlfriend's big old boat, a '69 Pontiac. Picked up two very young hitchhikers in Tennessee, to help us stay awake. They turned out to be two tight-lipped teen-age runaways.

      When we finally dumped them off in Miami Beach, we told them where they could sleep. Behind the seaside Deco hotels, where the cops would be sure to find them. Were we rats? No. Rescuers. Maybe even life-savers. Those were crazy times.

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    3. Said there and back grizz.

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    4. Long shlep, coming and going. Hope you got what you went there for.

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  12. I'm glad you're not an A******

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    1. Or an asshole, either. Mr. S is good peeps.

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  13. Not to split hairs, but wouldn't Cate's sendoff soiree have been a "bachelorette party"?

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    1. Perhaps. But given that a "bachelorette party" is generally a distaff party thrown by one's female friends, and this was a co-ed party put on by two male friends, "bachelor party" is what we called it, without any premeditation.

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  14. My good friend from those wild days Lois worked at to get me high I spent a lot of time there awesome place
    And my good friend Susan was bartender at the lodge down on Rush Street she was the best man in my first wedding.
    Oh those were the days or should I say daze

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  15. While this is a fine column, it sent me down quite a rabbit hole with "I cargo cult them, staring at the patch of blue they vanished into." Not sure if I had ever heard of cargo cults before, but I'm pretty sure I've never seen the term used as a reference like that. The previously unrealized resonance for me being that my father served in New Guinea in WWII, so he'd have been among the multitude of recipients of the original cargo that led to the cults.

    I think I'd seen Cate Plys' byline every once and a while before you started EGD, but I know I found it interesting that you were old friends whenever you first mentioned it here. It's been fun becoming slightly more familiar with her via the Mincing Rascals podcast, her own fascinating blog (which I guess is on hiatus?), and her occasional comments here and at Zorn's Substack.

    https://roselandchicago1972.substack.com/

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  16. I imagine that you long ago tired of my occasional queries about the photos atop the blog, NS, but today's is an intriguing stumper. (For me, at any rate.) What, where, why are those birds there, if I may ask?

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    1. Those are Inca Terns at the top, Jakash.... endangered species, just like true, longterm friends? I was struck by different photos, though... The comparison of the 1983 and 2024 photos of friends is delightful. And yesterday's photo of the different threads also stuck with me. I kept thinking about it.... why were the spools of thread all such bright colors ? Pink, orange, purple... I kept wondering what could those combinations could have been used for. If I were to take a photo of my own assortment of spools of thread, you'd see a lot of navy, black, white, beige, and a few splashes of color left over from various projects. But I dont think I have ever owned a spool of fuschia pink thread, let alone two of them!

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    2. Right you are Jill. I spotted the inca terns in Lincoln Park on Sunday — I don't know WHAT these birders are going on about, it was easy as pie (okay, they were in the bird house at the zoo). The thread was in a discount fabric store I wrote a column about five years ago. https://www.everygoddamnday.com/2020/10/cant-explore-coral-reef-try-discount.html

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    3. Oh, and I used them thinking, perhaps obscurely, of the phrase, "Birds of a feather..."

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    4. Thanks very much for the replies. Yes, the other two photos are swell, too!

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  17. Someone above wrote “Your column made me want to cry, maybe because I’m 86 years old.” Neil, your column made me want to cry because I’m Robert, the friend (along with Cate) you chose to write about so beautifully. Thank you, my friend. Those paired photos are perfect!

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