Tuesday, July 29, 2025

Hog wild

 

   My stock of Yiddish phrases is not very deep. But I do know "shonda fur di goyim" — a disgrace in front of the gentiles. Usually directed at a member of the tribe who, by playing into some ethnic stereotype, has embarrassed his religion before those who are too quick to scorn us anyway.
     I've always viewed that attitude with skepticism. It seems predicated on the mistaken notion that haters are making judgments, gathering facts. When they begin with their conclusions, and cherry pick only the facts that fit. I don't have many rules as a writer, but "Don't write for people who hate you," is one of them. People who consider Jews cheap are going to do so whether I pinch pennies or not.
     I also don't write for the easily embarrassed. When I wrote Friday's column about ordering a pork chop at the Old Ebbitt Grill in Washington, DC, I had my concerns — it was a trivial, share-my-high-life kind of post. I decided not to mention that the pork chop cost $35. Class distinctions inflame, why pour gasoline on the fire?
     I also didn't put in a few sentences explaining that YES, I know, I'm a JEW ordering a pork chop. Deal with it. First, I've said exactly that before. And second, I only had 790 words to tell a story that ended up being complicated. I decided to accept what flack I got for being who I am.
     In the end, it was only one guy. Let's call him David, since that is his name. David writes:
     I have been reading and enjoying your column for years. It's one of the reasons I still subscribe to the Sun Times. However, I was disturbed by your Friday column restaurants and pork chops.
     I personally don't care what a person eats or if they choose to consume something that might not fit in with their culture. Live and let live has always been the way I've conducted my life. In this case though, coming from a Jew, which I am too, I think glorifying pork chops complete with a picture sends the wrong message to many of your readers.
      Some readers, particularly non-Jews, may be confused thinking pork chops are off limits to Jews and I think to most Jews, that's where they draw a line. Virtually all of my friends who do not keep kosher avoid eating pork and bacon.
     In my mind, a Jewish guy writing a column about pork chops is inappropriate. As I said, you have every right to eat whatever you want but to see you, who occasionally writes about things Jewish, which I appreciate, writing such a column was very disappointing.
     I will continue to enjoy your column but please, at the very least, publicly respect a tradition that goes back thousands of years. You don't have to keep kosher to do that.
     I might not have answered at all. But he was, he said, a fan. He deserved a response of some sort. I thought carefully and answered this way.
     Let me start by saying that I appreciate that you have been reading for so many years. I appreciate your loyalty, and should probably just leave it at that.
     However. It troubles me that, despite this steady readership, so little of my worldview seems to have worn off. Perhaps you've read, but not for comprehension. Perhaps you've been skimming. If that is the case, let me urge you toward greater focus. Because if anything is clear from my column, it is that, while I am a proud Jew, I am not what they call a shomer shabbos Jew. I have never suggested I am any kind of role model or, indeed, anybody other than who I am. This can't be news to you. In fact, I've even addressed the pork chop issue, and quite recently. Here, please read the top of this. That's why I didn't take time in Friday's column to try to ward off a letter such as yours.
     Since you are a regular reader, I'll only ridicule you a little, in a gentle fashion. Here's what you said: while you yourself don't care what a person eats, you nevertheless care enough that I should pretend not to eat pork, or at least not admit to it in print. Because non-Jews, mistakenly, think pork chops are off limits to Jews. And we need to encourage that error so ... here I lose the thread. So they don't think less of us? I can't imagine doing the same thing for other faiths, castigating Christians for missing Easter services, or Muslims for not praying five times a day facing Mecca. Are these not personal choices?
     You go on: since "most of your friends" don't eat pork — how could you possibly know? Have you asked them? — I should pretend not to eat pork too? In case we ever become friends?
     Honestly, David, if I were to compare both our lapses: my enjoying pork chops in print, and you feeling that Jews need to present a unified front, pretending to engage in practices which few of them actually do — and up to 85 percent of American Jews do not keep Kosher — I would humbly suggest that I am the one displaying the more traditional Jewish values, at least to the degree that we still value honesty, individuality, sincerity and the like.
     I think that's enough. If you don't mind — and even if you do — I think I'll post this on my blog on Tuesday for the benefit of my most loyal readers. But don't worry, I will shield your name, to protect you from embarrassment. I recognize that it takes chutzpah to write to a newspaper columnist, and respect you for making the effort. But I hope you then accept my response in the spirit it was intended.
     No answer of course. Reading this a second time, I worry I was too hard on a landsman — another Yiddish term, for a fellow Jew from your general area. Sometimes I can be heavy-handed. Should I have gone for a lighter touch? 




35 comments:

  1. anitamosaics@yahoo.comJuly 29, 2025 at 6:49 AM

    Nicely said.

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  2. No need for a lighter touch.

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  3. The day my grandmother moved out of my parents’ home, my mother began buying bacon. We weren’t a kosher home per se, but mom tried. I am also a proud Jew, but more so spiritually. I believe your response was actually kinder than it could have been.

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  4. If you had gone for a lighter touch, then you wouldn't have been genuinely you. Which I say with readerly affection.

    Years ago, I was dating a Jewish guy (briefly), and the first time we went out to dinner, I can't recall which one of us ordered a pasta dish that included pork and cream. It was either his entrée or he wanted to try mine. I asked if that was OK, considering his religion. He shrugged it off. I had thought the dietary restrictions were more universal. And then I knew better!

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  5. Though you do not follow Jewish dietary law, you still think Talmudically. I loved the argument that since the majority of Jews eat shrimp salad and drive on the Sabbath, eating shrimp salad and driving on Saturday is Jewish tradition. I can visualize Zero Mostel sitting in a Chinese restaurant on Christmas breaking out into "Tradition, Tradition!"

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    1. Always good to see Rebbe Eisenberg post here.

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  6. “Since I have heard often enough that everyone in the end has his own religion, nothing seemed more natural to me than to fashion my own.” Goethe

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  7. For no particular reason I was reminded of a lunch that I had with a couple of Jewish friends. It was during Passover and we were in just an average restaurant in the Loop. My friend Bob pointed to the basket of ordinary bread and rolls on the table while saying to my friend Mike, “Please pass the matzoh.”

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  8. Well stated. The pork chop looked delicious, btw.

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  9. You might explain the science behind why Jews didn’t traditionally eat pork. And that, in 2025, the same health concerns aren’t present. Once I learned more about that, it all made sense to me in a logical way, not just from a religious viewpoint.

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  10. Even though there was never a pork chop in my house when I was growing up, it was not unusual for us to have deli ham in the fridge and shrimp (for special occasions when we could afford it). And, of course , spare ribs in the Chinese restaurant we went to every so often. I never quite understood but if my grandmother thought it was ok then it must have been.

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  11. Had god tasted a double bacon cheeseburger, he would surely have written the laws of Kashrut differently.

    And besides, why can't you put goat cheese on a beef patty? Or cow's cheese on lamb kebobs?

    Why are eggs and fish parve?

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  12. Your response was fine – and your point well taken. I'm a Jew. I don't eat bacon because cured meats are said to be bad for you. I avoid pork chops only because I'm told they are high in fat, despite what the pork industry tells you. Otherwise, I'd have at it. But I don't pass judgment on Jews who keep kosher, nor do I pass judgment on the strictness with which others practice their religions. It's a free country – at least for now.

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  13. I know you need to be you, but I’m still sorry that a pretty civil letter of disagreement was met with such a snarky response.

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  14. Truthfully, my first thought was that life has finally mellowed out Neil Steinberg just a little bit. Not only did you give David a long and thoughtful response, but you were actually concerned if your tone was too harsh. I have also been a long time reader, but over the years, I was the recipient more than once of a vintage smart a** Steinberg reply to one of my comments. But I read your blog for quite a while before taking the chance and actually commenting. So far, so good. Whew

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  15. Enjoy your chops. If anything, I think you spend too much money on fine dining, not cheap in that sense.

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  16. I think $35 for a pork chop is pretty reasonable in a restaurant.

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  17. IMO the lighter touch is always received better and sits better with the author later. Some call it the 24 hour rule. Wait 24 hours, then review your response, usually you will lighten it up.

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  18. Wow! You really are both brilliant and kind, in addition to being so eloquent. Love your response and how you think, along with your being so authentic and vulnerable.

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  19. Only one rule for kashrut in our household: no high trayf for dinner on erev Shabbat. In other words, no pork chops or shrimp on Fri night. It’s the least we can do.

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  20. I remember going through the food line at my Northwestern dorm with an Israeli friend 45 or so years ago during Passover and he had a hot dog with cheese on a bun which to my Gentile understanding was 3 strikes but he just said :shrug: It being a hot dog I guess we don't really *know* if what's in it was pork.

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  21. "I have been reading and enjoying your column for years."

    David's letter makes me wonder how many years that has been, and I'd have to guess he is not a reader of EGD. That's the part that I don't understand, and it doesn't only apply to David. It just seems like there's a fair portion of your readership who like some or much of what you write, but seem to miss the overall perspective from which it's being written.

    You do indeed write about being Jewish, but certainly not in the fashion of a devout stalwart who spends much of his time in a synagogue.

    Even before clicking the link to the 2021 column, I was going to refer to your mother's enjoyment of bacon, for instance, which you mention there and have mentioned other times, I think. Another time you wrote a funny piece about how you appreciated the free shrimp at some kind of celebration.

    You've said many times that you're not, and never have been, a believer. Which, of course, you told him: "Because if anything is clear from my column, it is that, while I am a proud Jew, I am not what they call a shomer shabbos Jew."

    "Please, at the very least, publicly respect a tradition that goes back thousands of years." Since the guy brings up his many friends "who do not keep kosher (but) avoid eating pork and bacon," one can only assume that said tradition involves picking and choosing how one goes about living their heritage, and personally deciding which parts of it are the most meaningful.

    I think quite a few folks do that! In a different faith, this is (often derogatively) referred to as being a "Cafeteria Catholic." Not that you'd find the likes of an Old Ebbitt pork chop at a cafeteria. đŸ˜‰

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  22. shomer shabbos
    This term should be familiar to any "Big Lebowski" fans here. John Goodman's character used this term several times in the film, and it goes something like this:
    Walter Sobchak: I'm saying, I see what you're getting at, Dude, he kept the money. My point is, here we are, it's shabbas, the sabbath, which I'm allowed to break only if it's a matter of life or death...
    The Dude: Will you come off it, Walter? You're not even fucking Jewish, man.
    Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you talkin' about?
    The Dude: Man, you're fucking Polish Catholic...
    Walter Sobchak: What the fuck are you talking about? I converted when I married Cynthia! Come on, Dude!
    The Dude: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah...
    Walter Sobchak: And you know this!
    The Dude: Yeah, and five fucking years ago you were divorced.
    Walter Sobchak: So what are you saying? When you get divorced you turn in your library card? You get a new license? You stop being Jewish?
    The Dude: It's all a part of your sick Cynthia thing, man. Taking care of her fucking dog. Going to her fucking synagogue. You're living in the fucking past.
    Walter Sobchak: Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax...
    [shouting]
    Walter Sobchak: YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVIN' IN THE FUCKIN' PAST!

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  23. Neil Steinberg. Jewish. Pork chop. I didn’t even connect the dots. My husband was Jewish. He ate pork chops. Too many important and scary things going on for this to be any kind of a deal. Move on folks. Nothing to see here.

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  24. You weren't too hard on the boychik, Mister S. Just the right amount of snark, and a lighter touch of sarcasm might have failed to make your point...that you don't keep Kosher, and yet you still hold true to traditional Jewish values. Proud of your religion and your heritage, but not a devout synagogue attendee, either. You probably could have been more sharp-edged, but why bother? "Jews Who Eat Pork" probably isn't the hill you want to die on. Or maybe you're just mellowing with age.

    Both of my parents grew up poor, but my father couldn't have cared less about religion. His mother was an early Bolshevik who fled to America and had seven sons. My father was fifth in line, and his religion was making money, squirreling it away, and sitting on it.

    My mother was the devout one. Spoke only Yiddish until she began school. Lit candles on Friday night...and the yahrzeits as well. Said Kaddish for the father she lost at fifteen. Served shrimp cocktail at dinner and bacon at breakfast. But only prepared lamb chops...which I grew to hate...and never pork. Maybe that came from her own mother...who knows? Have eaten pork products all my life. Yes, and even Spam. My father, a WWII veteran, wouldn't have it in the house, but I love it. That alone might send me to hell.

    My Hebrew school classmates hated being there, hated our immigrant teacher, mocked her, and played catch behind her back. Until the window broke. I got tired of all the shenanigans, and I dropped out. Pretty much walked away from Judaism at eleven Two years later, a Hasidic tutor helped me re-learn enough to have a bar mitzvah.

    So for 65 years, I've been a JINO...a Jew In Name Only. Love the food of my people. Love klezmer music. Love Jewish humor. Still celebrate Hanukkah. But no keeping kosher. No Shabbos. No synagogue. Two wives, neither of them Jewish. No kids.No upward mobility. No close-knit family.

    It's the late innings...and at this stage of the game, the shadows are lengthening and covering the outfield grass...and if I like pork chops and ribs, well...it doesn't really matter anymore.

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  25. Today's EGD has set off a series of alarm bells within me that have endless stories behind them. I am not a religious person (in fact quite the opposite), but I deeply respect those who are. Neil, what you wrote to your critic was absolutely pure NS. Unlike others, I've only been following your blog for a little over a year and totally recognize that you are more about our human issues, faulty as they are, and want to point out why that matters.

    I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian environment and have spent the better part of my life analyzing why it is bullshit. There is a marvelous book "Pigs, Cows, Wars and Witches" by Marvin Harris that outlines why pork became the dietary bane of the Jews. It also identifies why beef is the bane of Hindus. At one time in history, there were credible reasons why those traditions were established and embedded into religious beliefs. Catholics and fish, Jews and pork, Hindus and beef, etc., etc. were based on necessity, but no longer have gravitas. If only the fundamentalists would lighten up, we might find ourselves in a more peaceful world.

    Finally, I want to share a story from one of my long time Jewish friends. His mother was invited to dinner by a gentile. She immediately went to the buffet for ham. The host, with all good intentions, warned her that this was not Kosher. Her response was, "This chicken is great." He replied, "But it's ham." She insisted, "No, it's the best chicken I've ever had."

    Neil, you are sometimes much too kind to your critics. Many thanks for continuing to be you. You make the world a better place.

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  26. As I have said several times before, my husband and I love your column and blog. BUT I asked my husband if he reads the comments on your blog. He said no and I prodded him to make sure he reads them. Today’s blog comments are one of the reasons I read the blog. Your readers are enlightening, creative and come across as warm/ joyful human beings. Neil keep giving us things to think/talk about.

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  27. Hell? Didn't think Jews believed in heaven or hell or is that as much of a misunderstanding as the eating of pork?

    My grand father came over from Poland before the war. Shared your dad's religion. Died with every penny he ever earned in the bank.

    Why is socking it away a noble thing for Christians but Jews are berated for it?

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    1. Saying that my love of Spam might send me to hell was supposed to come across as snarcastic humor. Jews don't really believe in an afterlife. Wasn't brought up to.revere a heaven or despise a hell. We're just light bulbs. The light within burns out, or flickers out. The bulb has ceased to function, and it needs to be quickly disposed of, one way or another. There's no lightbulb heaven and no lightbulb hell.

      If there were a hell, my father would be down there, whispering in Lucifer's ear about how to save a few pennies per ton of coal. And berating the shovelers, the same way he bawled me out for fifty years.Not for nothing was his nickname Old Yeller.

      He did not die a wealthy man...middle six figures is bupkis these days. But he still had copies of every tax return he ever filed, dating back to 1941. An honest CPA, who hated chiselers and who helped convict a few wise guys. But that's another story for another time.

      Why are Jewish people stereotyped as stingy or cheap? Copy that question and paste it into the Google Machine. You'll probably get more than you ever wanted to know. As I did.

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  28. I once overheard my husband, who is Jewish and eats everything ask an orthodox Rabbi why exactly it was that he was not supposed to eat pork, and the Rabbi replied “Because Hashem says”.

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  29. You said you were proud to be Jewish. Here Carlin on pride. He covers to subjects here pride and God Bless America. While he was Catholic I doubt if he was proud of that. I am Jewish. I am not sure why I should be proud to be Jew or an American. As Carlin said neither is an achievement

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    1. Carlin certainly bathed his Catholicism with a humorous nostalgic glow, so your opinion on how he felt about his religion might reflect more on yourself and your views than it does on him and his. I think it's certainly possible to be both proud of being Jewish and proud of being an American — both can be a real achievement, if you do them right. I think both can a way to view the world, one that requires daring and strength, a view that might be unimaginable to the world's chronic naysayers. Nobody requires you to be proud of anything, Sanford, though I would observe that the results speak for themselves.

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  30. I forgot to include the link to the Carlin video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxWfUVkpm6A&t=2s

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  31. To use an old aphorism...to each his own.

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